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Has anyone else stepped away from computer job in later years

Cheeky_James

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I did this a few years ago.
Resigned a career in a computer based analytical role from burn out , frustration and depression caused by.

Sitting in front of that screen all day long was hell.
I swear Human bodies and brains are not designed to do that!! :mad: :cry:

Software, emails , messenger, teams, forecasts. Actuals, quarterly plans, budgets, etc etc
FML and pls kill me :cry:

In a new “low skills” job role now with almost zero computer time and have to say, im a bit poorer but never happier.

anyone else made the career change?
 

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No because if I work a job that does not allow me to utilize and expand my innate talents and skillsets, I feel like I'm wasting my time - because I am. Almost every single thing I have an aptitude or talent for requires using a computer. And this is not a comfort zzone issue, there are an infinite number of tech related skills to learn, and so having worked across different domains, I've found it intellectually challenging in its own way. WFH is also a requirement for me.

That said there are some outdoor jobs that sounds very appealing to me such as a firewatch or park ranger which I ought to look into more.

What job did you switch to?
 
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No because if I work a job that does not allow me to utilize and expand my innate talents and skillsets, I feel like I'm wasting my time - because I am. Almost every single thing I have an aptitude or talent for requires using a computer. And this is not a comfort zzone issue, there are an infinite number of tech related skills to learn, and so having worked across different domains, I've found it intellectually challenging in its own way. WFH is also a requirement for me.

That said there are some outdoor jobs that sounds very appealing to me such as a firewatch or park ranger which I ought to look into more.

What job did you switch to?
That’s interesting re your aptitude and talents requiring a computer.
I can get it tho, if someone was in creative role (or somewuch) and the role industry is fully computer based these days etc there’s no other option.

My new job, i don’t want to specific exactly for privacy and risk of getting traced via this site.. but i work shifts, and there is some driving involved , some light basic hands on work and client services.

There is also quite a bit of downtime in the job which is great. That’s really what got me in the office roles, not too much downtime or if there is I’m still chained to the computer as to not look like I’ve low workload etc. and the rotting trapped feeling of that.

current job is not a career job - there is not much progression only hourly rate improvements. But it’s been great as a stop gap.

the hardest part was the letting go mentally of the “sunk cost” - the 4 year degree, plus 2 years of further study, the decade+ of work experience and all the skills acquired in the career .
But it was just the wrong road and have to let that go. Life is a journey etc

I’m considering moving to a hands on tradie type job nexts if I can . Altho I am a bit too old,

Having input into building my own house would be a life goal . I want to at least learn about building before I die for sure…
 

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If you're among the few who physically goes to an office or the like 5-6 days a week, consider yourself fortunate, damned, or an amalgamation of each. Everything that isn't low-paid or/and manual labor is moving primairly onto Zoom

Doctors and lawyers are increasingly taking fewer in-person meetings, and engineers can have a minimum wage toadie send them a pic of whatever's f-cked up onsite, then provide instructions on repairing it. Engineers can do all of that without departing from their own living rooms

Stepping away from the screen in one's professional life is thus becoming more improbable than being an infantryman in The IDF, who's EXEMPTED from crushing a 3 month old Palestinian's skull into smithereens via his bootheel, within his first few weeks on the clock
 
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That’s interesting re your aptitude and talents requiring a computer.
I can get it tho, if someone was in creative role (or somewuch) and the role industry is fully computer based these days etc there’s no other option.

My new job, i don’t want to specific exactly for privacy and risk of getting traced via this site.. but i work shifts, and there is some driving involved , some light basic hands on work and client services.

There is also quite a bit of downtime in the job which is great. That’s really what got me in the office roles, not too much downtime or if there is I’m still chained to the computer as to not look like I’ve low workload etc. and the rotting trapped feeling of that.

current job is not a career job - there is not much progression only hourly rate improvements. But it’s been great as a stop gap.

the hardest part was the letting go mentally of the “sunk cost” - the 4 year degree, plus 2 years of further study, the decade+ of work experience and all the skills acquired in the career .
But it was just the wrong road and have to let that go. Life is a journey etc

I’m considering moving to a hands on tradie type job nexts if I can . Altho I am a bit too old,

Having input into building my own house would be a life goal . I want to at least learn about building before I die for sure…
Aboriginal gynecologist?
 

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I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Everything that isn't low-paid or/and manual labor is moving primairly onto Zoom. Doctors and lawyers are increasingly taking fewer in-person meetings, and engineers can have a minimum wage toadie send them a pic of whatever's f-cked up onsite, then provide instructions on repairing it. Engineers can do all of that without departing from their own living rooms

Stepping away from the screen in one's professional life is thus becoming more improbable than being an infantryman in The IDF, who's EXEMPTED from crushing a 3 month old Palestinian's skull into smithereens via his bootheel, within his first few weeks on the clock
jeezos :oops: that escalated at the end…
Yeah it’s pretty sad the movement across to the computer.
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jeezos :oops: that escalated at the end…
The vocation in question(IDF infantryman)is almost certainly a more cushy gig than digging ditches in Saskatchewan come mid-December, even once we factor in the Gaza conflict's more grisly aspects.... Let's give credit where it's deserved

"Yeah it’s pretty sad the movement across to the computer.
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if its not fun, find a way not to do it. that is just smart.

high tech is a lifestyle. big money... big personal investment.

the not so secret/secret is to not spend all the money and invest it in something (your own business, other peoples business, real estate, the list goes on and on). most high tech workers can be independently wealthy by mid life if they have discipline and a plan.

when you can jump of the ship depends on the environment you want. once a man understands relative status, the choices become easy.
 
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