"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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The gym has always been my place of mental discipline, however, this is an untapped area for mining pvssy.

Surely, a large majority of the chicks are single?

What approaches have worked for you?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Ronaldo7

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Focus on your workout. Otherwise, you shouldn't go at all.
 

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Have only ever slept with one woman met in a gym in 30 years of adulthood, so hoping for some good pointers from this thread.
 

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Untapped?? I think it's a prime, cliche and overdone spot for trying to pick up chicks.
 

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Hi Vlad. Yes, untapped. I've never once tried it on a chick at the gym. Never seen any dudes trying it on either. What's your experience been? Any tips?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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When I go to the gym I go to do battle and focus on my workout, not pick up chicks.

With that being said, if a girl wants to meet you, she will eye f*ck you and subtly follow you around the gym, so you better open her!

Gym classes are the best place to meet the girls. Come early and chat up whoever is around you, regardless of gender, and then close in on the one you like before class starts. During class, focus on ONLY the class, and then continue the conversation after class ends.

But when it comes to lifting, focus on your workout and again only take advantage of girls that throw themselves at you.

I'm not by far the most jacked dude at the gym, but the girls that I've met who were following me around told me they liked me because I wasn't trying to impress anyone and was just doing my own thing, and they liked that. Other dudes will posture and look around to see who's looking at them. Don't be that guy.
 

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Just try and wait until she leaves the gym and then do your thang after she's done working out
 

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Didn't think of that. Don't eat where you sh1t, I get it. Could get awkward.
 

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Vice said:
When I go to the gym I go to do battle and focus on my workout, not pick up chicks.

With that being said, if a girl wants to meet you, she will eye f*ck you and subtly follow you around the gym, so you better open her!

Gym classes are the best place to meet the girls. Come early and chat up whoever is around you, regardless of gender, and then close in on the one you like before class starts. During class, focus on ONLY the class, and then continue the conversation after class ends.

But when it comes to lifting, focus on your workout and again only take advantage of girls that throw themselves at you.

I'm not by far the most jacked dude at the gym, but the girls that I've met who were following me around told me they liked me because I wasn't trying to impress anyone and was just doing my own thing, and they liked that. Other dudes will posture and look around to see who's looking at them. Don't be that guy.
I'm the same way. I go there to work out, but I always keep an eye open. If I catch a looker i'll go over and open her. If I don't get that initial eye fuucking i'll just ignore em.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I had a bad experience trying to get something going with a personal trainer. Then I had to make a point of going when I knew she wasn't there.

Best to avoid that.
 

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Girls at gyms usually just want attention or to work out and not have anyone bother them. Either way you're not in the clear.

And trainers just want to train you for your money, so that's even more hopeless. I'm not saying it's impossible but it's very unlikely you'll be able to successfully bag a girl at a public gym.

On the other hand, When I'm at school I have no issues hitting on a chick checking me out at the university gym, but that's a whole different concept. . Same age, same school, gyms not even that big so you generally see the same crowd of people at the same times/days. I've gotten a couple numbers and succesful lays from there.
 

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to me, socializing is last on my priorities when at the gym, and talking to girls isnt very high up there. I dont even like saying hey to people i know, because then i get in a 5-10 min conversation cause everyone is hyped up on caffiene and endorphins and it interrupts the flow and focus of my workout.

You are there to take care of your body. While there are some hot girls there, i would say dont bother gaming unless she is giving you extremely overt signals or she opens you.

Keep in mind, many girls at the gym feel self conscious and sweaty and gross.

However, i agree that gaming at the gym at your college might be more fruitful. I'm always too much of a pansy when i see those girls in their tight tight yoga pants and such....oh well
 

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ya someone recently posted about hitting them up at the college gyms.
 

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Everyone got this right: for the love of God, no OP!

Ask any girl and they will tell you: they HATE guys hitting on them at the gym. They go there to improve, not to look improved.

You are simply gawking at them and they will project Evil Treadmill Vibe, complete with headphones and indoor visors.

Furthermore, the lowliest couples on Earth are the sweaty "Gym couples", featuring some chick from ROTC and an overprotective DB who made the same mistake you're hoping to make. And they never lift the same amount, nor is she strong enough to spot him. Please don't form gym couples.

And if I see one more couple who jogged to the grocery store together I'm going to break something. It's nothing more than a ploy by her to dress down to make it seem like he has an actual purpose behind wearing those $6 spandex shorts he bought at Ross in 2002. Thank you for not having jogged here.

Side note: why work OUT when you can work PERIOD? Sure, exercise your muscles, but pull-ups and push-ups and biking are enough, and you don't need a membership. Join a hiking club or build a rock wall or something instead.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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bigneil said:
Everyone got this right: for the love of God, no OP!

Ask any girl and they will tell you: they HATE guys hitting on them at the gym. They go there to improve, not to look improved.

You are simply gawking at them and they will project Evil Treadmill Vibe, complete with headphones and indoor visors.

Furthermore, the lowliest couples on Earth are the sweaty "Gym couples", featuring some chick from ROTC and an overprotective DB who made the same mistake you're hoping to make. And they never lift the same amount, nor is she strong enough to spot him. Please don't form gym couples.

And if I see one more couple who jogged to the grocery store together I'm going to break something. It's nothing more than a ploy by her to dress down to make it seem like he has an actual purpose behind wearing those $6 spandex shorts he bought at Ross in 2002. Thank you for not having jogged here.

Side note: why work OUT when you can work PERIOD? Sure, exercise your muscles, but pull-ups and push-ups and biking are enough, and you don't need a membership. Join a hiking club or build a rock wall or something instead.

Wtf? No it isn't. Sure lifting isn't for everybody but don't go around and say that those three things are enough to get aesthetic. Stick to giving people people advice about chasing and spending hundreds if not thousands on strippers.:rolleyes:
 

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Would a chick be upset if Channing Tatum talked to her in the gym? I don't think they'd mind
 

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Thanks for the advice fella's! The strategy is clear.
Gym is for me to look and feel good.
Focusing on the chicks is like licking honey off a razors edge. A pointless endeavour.

Important point: if I bring gaming in everywhere, I have nothing for myself anyway. Thats bad. Mental boundaries are important. Peace
 
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