"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Got her number... now what!

Matt182

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Hey new to the site, as I still have my V plates and that needs to change!! I have no problem in actualy pulling girls in clubs... I dont lack the confidence for that (usually because im plastered) just got a girls number whos quite older than me (shes 22 im 19) her freind was saying i was too young but she didnt seem to mind! anyway i got her number were do i go from now? do i wait a few days? and what do i say! im not the greatest conversationalist! cheers. Also i dont have a car which is a pain in the butt, is this much of a problem?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I guess what im struggling with is what do i say to a girl that i dont know but one who ive speant the entire night kissing and want to get into the sack! what do you guys normally do? any help would be great
 

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Some guys call. I normally text.

I say "Hey it's Iceberg from Saturday. (Insert funny anecdote about the night) Let's do drinks this week. Like Thursday."

She says yes, no, or you never hear from her. I don't do all that texting back and forth, or smiley faces. Just "Hey it's me. Had fun. Let's hang out on (X Day)."
 

Masculinity

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The two-day rule to call is common knowledge. I used to text, but after losing

some girls I made it a habit to call. I call and ask:

Me: Hey is dork there?

Her: What? lol

Me: Hah, what's up kiddo? This is Robyn (refer to something funny that

happened when you met her).

Her: Ohh...hi!

Me: What are you up to?

Her: hfjkahfalkjfhklsjfhaks, you?

Me: Cool, I'm mixing some tunes in my computer. Hey, (girl name) what are

you doing Friday night.


Her: Not much/ hanging out with adhjkahlfkd

Me: [If she isn't doing anything]: Listen, I'm going for a walk Friday night, tag

along and let's get some tea and hangout as friends. [If she's doing

something]: Hah, well call adshfjkadshlf and tell him/her you won't be able

to hangout because you're hanging out with me.

Her: Giggling...hah, ok. When and where?

And then just take it from there. I give you some props for getting a girl

older than you. You refer to her as a friend so that she starts asking herself

if you like her. If it all goes well the first night, the 2nd time you see her you

should invite her over to your place or bring a movie to hers and escalate

two steps forward and one step back.
 
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