midwestguy
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Still no call yet.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Got a phone call tonight.
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
I don't know why yall are calling this girl crazy. It's quite obvious the the dude making the posts is nuts. He's obsessed with this chick, and it's actually quite frightening to watch his obsession unfold on this forum...
SHE DOESN'T LIKE YOU...SO WHAT? THERE ARE MILLIONS OF OTHER GIRLS.....LET IT GO.....
SHE DOESN'T LIKE YOU...SO WHAT? THERE ARE MILLIONS OF OTHER GIRLS.....LET IT GO.....
midwestguy
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At first she gave signals that she said she would go out to dinner with me. Then started flaking.Originally posted by jprjrjr
I don't know why yall are calling this girl crazy. It's quite obvious the the dude making the posts is nuts. He's obsessed with this chick, and it's actually quite frightening to watch his obsession unfold on this forum...
SHE DOESN'T LIKE YOU...SO WHAT? THERE ARE MILLIONS OF OTHER GIRLS.....LET IT GO.....
Look dude, whatever signals she gave you to beging with, it's obviousl she changed her mind.....LET IT GO.....Originally posted by midwestguy
At first she gave signals that she said she would go out to dinner with me. Then started flaking.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
midwestguy
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Im never going to get a date with a girl. I keep getting rejected, about to give up.Originally posted by Wyldfire
You sound like a freaking stalker. Just leave the girl alone, for God's sakes. If she's having some guy call you to scare you that means you aren't taking no for an answer when SHE REALLY MEANS NO.
http://www.johndmoore.net/ObsessiveLoveWheel.htmlOriginally posted by midwestguy
Im never going to get a date with a girl. I keep getting rejected, about to give up.
Deal with one problem at a time, dude. Talk to your psychologist about this stuff. You need to get a handle on YOURSELF before you should even begin to think about dating.
Dude don't listen to advice to see a psychologist. But do stop contacting this girl and totally forget about her, the government is nuts about stalking. You have to just forget her and focusing your effort on other girls. It is tough, women reject a lot of guys left and right. It's part of being a male in a woman's world. All the time you focus on her is time you're not going after girls you pontentially have a shot at...she's not even that hot. Either follow the advice that some of poster gave you to focus on other girls or do nothing. This situation is a waste of your time and effort.
midwestguy
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I think shes cute though. Just something about her smile and personality I liked, but then she started flaking.Originally posted by Wyldfire
http://www.johndmoore.net/ObsessiveLoveWheel.html
Deal with one problem at a time, dude. Talk to your psychologist about this stuff. You need to get a handle on YOURSELF before you should even begin to think about dating.
So what if you think she's cute. There are millions of girls you will think are cute on the planet. You need to get a grip of yourself. You ARE obsessing over this girl and she does NOT return your interest. What you are doing, thinking and feeling is UNHEALTHY for you. If you continue to try to pursue ANY contact with this girl you are going to come off as being bug sh*t crazy. Do you want to look like a nutcase? Forget you ever met this girl and do NOT let your mind run away with you every time a girl you are attracted to pays the slightest bit of attention to you. Unless a girl jumps your bones don't read too much into whether or not she likes you, too. Girls change their minds more than they change their clothes...especially when they are younger than 25.Originally posted by midwestguy
I think shes cute though. Just something about her smile and personality I liked, but then she started flaking.
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I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
midwestguy
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What could have caused her to change her mind?Originally posted by Wyldfire
So what if you think she's cute. There are millions of girls you will think are cute on the planet. You need to get a grip of yourself. You ARE obsessing over this girl and she does NOT return your interest. What you are doing, thinking and feeling is UNHEALTHY for you. If you continue to try to pursue ANY contact with this girl you are going to come off as being bug sh*t crazy. Do you want to look like a nutcase? Forget you ever met this girl and do NOT let your mind run away with you every time a girl you are attracted to pays the slightest bit of attention to you. Unless a girl jumps your bones don't read too much into whether or not she likes you, too. Girls change their minds more than they change their clothes...especially when they are younger than 25.
Who cares why she changed her mind? You really shouldn't care. It doesn't matter why. Knowing why won't change the fact that she changed her mind.Originally posted by midwestguy
What could have caused her to change her mind?
My guess is that you were too clingy...calling and contacting her too much, coming off as desperate. Girls do NOT like guys that try TOO HARD. It's good to show a little bit of interest but it's bad to over do it. I can almost guarantee that you are over-doing it.
midwestguy
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Well at work when I asked her out she agreed, and next day even asked me to name some places where to eat. few days after I asked her out I bought her a 20 giftcard for the mall and when I handed her the xmas card she said it was sweet of me and hugged me. She opend it and said I didnt have to buy her that and kept smiling. She said I should give it to my mom but I told her to keep it. She said she would call me abd all. Anyways she then said I was starting to get too pushy cause I was asking her otu everyday at work. But even when I called her after she left for school she still said she would call me. At work she said she didnt like giving her num out to guys and said she would call me, so I got her num from someone.Originally posted by Wyldfire
Who cares why she changed her mind? You really shouldn't care. It doesn't matter why. Knowing why won't change the fact that she changed her mind.
My guess is that you were too clingy...calling and contacting her too much, coming off as desperate. Girls do NOT like guys that try TOO HARD. It's good to show a little bit of interest but it's bad to over do it. I can almost guarantee that you are over-doing it.
I tried to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, but now I'm convinced he's one of two things: 1) A troll. Nothing sinks into this guy's head. It's as if he's either trying to act the fool, or he really is one 2) He's a straight up whacko. I'm leaning towards this one. I very much agree with Wyldfire that this guy needs professional help. I also think someone should get his IP and notify the authorities in his town before he harms this girl.....
I usually don't talk like this..but something about this guy isn't right....
I usually don't talk like this..but something about this guy isn't right....
tmpgstx
Master Don Juan
Yeah .. you are WAY to sensitive Midwest. You're putting the cart before the horse in a big way.
You asked her out everyday at work? Why? She already said yes once. You then bought her card hoping to 'seal the deal' with the sensitive route, but it totally backfired on you. Never give a woman to much affection unless she earns it.
You're still a virgin that's obvious .. and you're very desparate for a date. You will need help this and possibly other ways to remove fears, desparation.
You asked her out everyday at work? Why? She already said yes once. You then bought her card hoping to 'seal the deal' with the sensitive route, but it totally backfired on you. Never give a woman to much affection unless she earns it.
You're still a virgin that's obvious .. and you're very desparate for a date. You will need help this and possibly other ways to remove fears, desparation.
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Midwestguy just learn from the experience and move onward. This is what girls do to young, inexperienced "nice" guys that come on to strong: Lead them on>subtely reject them or flake>if he doesn't get the "message", then she considers him a stalker and she has no blame. What she did was a little worse than some girls but not as bad as others might do. It's not necessarily personal this would happen to any guy who tried too hard and doesn't perceive her signs of disinterest.
Learn the lesson from this experience to not come on too strong, look for the (subtle) signs of her disinterest regardless of what she has said and done previously, and then move on to another girl or you'll just be labeled a stalker. And moving on also means to stop posting about it in this thread, people are already freaking out. I just wanted you to focus on the postive.
Learn the lesson from this experience to not come on too strong, look for the (subtle) signs of her disinterest regardless of what she has said and done previously, and then move on to another girl or you'll just be labeled a stalker. And moving on also means to stop posting about it in this thread, people are already freaking out. I just wanted you to focus on the postive.
midwestguy
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No. Its on the prep sports site.Originally posted by jprjrjr
I agree somewhat keto, but this guy is going way too far. She might have lead him on, but this is ridiculous.
P.S. Did anyone else notice he's got pictures of her from the newspaper...Tell me that's not a bit freaky....
midwestguy
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I kept asking her out cause she didnt call me and I was nervous she would forget.Originally posted by ketostix
Midwestguy just learn from the experience and move onward. This is what girls do to young, inexperienced "nice" guys that come on to strong: Lead them on>subtely reject them or flake>if he doesn't get the "message", then she considers him a stalker and she has no blame. What she did was a little worse than some girls but not as bad as others might do. It's not necessarily personal this would happen to any guy who tried too hard and doesn't perceive her signs of disinterest.
Learn the lesson from this experience to not come on too strong, look for the (subtle) signs of her disinterest regardless of what she has said and done previously, and then move on to another girl or you'll just be labeled a stalker. And moving on also means to stop posting about it in this thread, people are already freaking out. I just wanted you to focus on the postive.
Kerensky
Master Don Juan
You're obsessed. Right now, I want you to go to sleep. After that, first thing in the morning, I want you to grab a lounge chair, set it up in your room near a sunny window, mix some fresh lemonade and just chillax in the sun.
Then move on with your life, dude. You can't win them all and you've definitely lost this one.
Then move on with your life, dude. You can't win them all and you've definitely lost this one.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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