"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Just wanted to say goodbye to my fellow So suave members.

This was a great place to vent!

All the best to everyone!:up:
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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SamTheHobit said:
Just wanted to say goodbye to my fellow So suave members.

This was a great place to vent!

All the best to everyone!:up:
Why and where are you going ? It must have taken you a while to build up those green dots - It would be a shame to throw away your e-cred now.. ;)
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Bring back PlayHer Man with no conditions and a full apology.
I know that's just a sig, but seriously? A guy flagrantly breaks the rules here and you expect him to be apologized to? No one is bigger than the site. C'mon PairPlus, you're better than this.

Seeing the reactions of this past week, it's apparent that men will fall for a guy using "jerk game" even quicker than women do.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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zekko said:
Seeing the reactions of this past week, it's apparent that men will fall for a guy using "jerk game" even quicker than women do.
Makes you wonder who the real homos are around here.
 

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Danger said:
Or perhaps the world is just starved for people who don't hold back for the sake of political correctness.
Calling people names like a 12 year old doesn't strike me as a bold stand against political correctness.
 

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Danger said:
And of course, your own post threw a subtle jab followed up by another poster with their own "12 year old insult". PHM had certain problems, but he didn't pull any punches, and for that he definitely gets my respect. If you choose to ignore messages because someone can be insulting, then you are only hurting your own growth. We can learn something from everyone, regardless of the medium or manner they choose to transmit that message.
Noted. At least you're not trying to portray him as a saint or a blameless martyr like some are.
 

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Why does he have to go around using homophobic slurs? Is he a closet homo? I know a gay person and they are pretty cool. He actually acts pretty alpha at work since he is the boss. I don't really care, he is a cool boss. So don't go around using those slurs.
 

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Danger said:
Some people looked past his "faggot" hallmark and focused on his message instead.

Such people should be commended for focusing on the real message and ignoring the rest, but you in turn call those people homos.
At least I used the verbally correct word "homo" when describing if someone might be gay. I agree the guy had some good messages. I don't really care what happened, I'm just saying it's not right to be using those slurs all the time and that's why he got banned.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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No one has tried to portray him as anything. It's simple - you've either benefited from him or you haven't. I used to hate the guy when I first joined here. I saw him as an arrogant, far fetched moron with a huge ego - but then it clicked in me. It wasn't the message he was trying to portray that was the problem - it was me and my brain washed beta faggot outlook on life. I literally went from cringing at seeing his user name to looking forward to read his post and taking on board what he had to say.

Honestly, the guy has seriously woke me the fvck up and I owe it to him... I'm not one to a$$ lick anyone but I'll always show appreciation when it's needed. And to me personally, he deserves it. I'd most likely be stuck in my old beta ways if it was for his "brick in the face approach" being taken for an idiot.

It's really fvcked me off that he's been banned - and the worst thing is it's most likely a bunch of feminised fags that couldn't handle reality that got him it. He gave advice that purely benefited YOU, no one else...
 

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adam225 said:
it's most likely a bunch of feminised fags that couldn't handle reality that got him it.
He did it to himself. This is why I used the "like a 12 year old" phrase. I haven't heard anyone toss that word around like that since I was a freshman in high school. He insulted, berated, and accused anyone who disagreed with him of being feminized. Danger was right when he said the guy had problems.

I thought about 80% of what he said was good. The rest was paranoia and garbage. The good advice that he gave is readily available from numerous posters on this site, who manage to dispense it without calling people names.
 

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^^^You guys just don't get it.

Some people have some loyalty, and they're not going to drop that loyalty just because mods or other members tell them to. Good for them, they're not sheep.:up: :up: :up:

Some people liked the guy. Do you guys not understand this???

"Well, he used the term faggot!!"

Well, he's banned now for it.

Let guys talk about him, he was a friend and a mentor to some here.

Your ongoing attempts to convince other members how they should feel about PHM is only going to make it worse. And cause posters to defend him, like I'm doing now.
 

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WOW back in the day Francisco D'anconia was my mentor, and now Playher Man is the new site mentor? How things have changed. Sosuave is nothing like it used to be.
 

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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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