Good conversational skills & flirting on video ?

[BaronOfHair]

@Cheeky_James "Is this really where guys are at?"

Yep. What you describe(Opening with generic compliments, short and lame attempt at flirting, going into interview mode, asking heaps of basic boring questions, proposing a date and trying get contact details, following chicks up the street)is the dating and mating equivalent of men filming lengthy analyses of how Bruce Lee(who spent most of his very brief life on stage and on film sets)was the greatest warrior to ever live. And then offering viewers "education" on how they too can be just like Bruce, by performing jump kicks, learning to nunchuck, and speaking in all sorts of New Agey profundities

By contrast, video of a fella simply walking up to a gal, and saying: "I'm hosting an exhibit of Man Ray's early work tonight... You oughta stop by" is considerably LESS theatrical than watching someone drop an assailant via a single throat strike, then getting on with life. Thus, relatively few folks in the realms of either dating and self-defense offer such down and dirty tutelage

 

[Cheeky_James]

There are some nice infields on this channel.

@nicksaiz65 @Sega Genesis

Interesting channel this AG Hayden .

Re this vid above - Todd V has some good conversational stuff vs the average approach coaches.

His comments are pretty corny, but he can hold a convo longer at least.

The blonde girl is not showing much interest in him tho and it still feels like an interview…he’s doing lots of qualification indeed.

what do you guys think of Todd…




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[nicksaiz65]

@nicksaiz65 @Sega Genesis

Interesting channel this AG Hayden .

Re this vid above - Todd V has some good conversational stuff vs the average approach coaches.

His comments are pretty corny, but he can hold a convo longer at least.

The blonde girl is not showing much interest in him tho and it still feels like an interview…he’s doing lots of qualification indeed.

what do you guys think of Todd…




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Todd is interesting. A lot of the stuff he says feels cheesy, gamey, or verbose, but I think he has a lot of good tips too. I feel like he’s good to get some tips from but not model your game around.

I think AG Hayden has better game though.

That said, I do enjoy this video from Todd. I’ve never seen any PUA post videos showing dealing with a two set solo. This infield is pretty cool.

 

[Sega Genesis]

But..he describes himself as a”borderline autistic , monotone , introverted , technical /nerd” type guy in his theory videos.
he looks more like a tall, athletic jock type to me .
This is a bit suspicious.
Plus that monotone voice is hard to listen to.
Maybe it’s sexy to chicks .. @Sega Genesis ..opinions?

Apologies CJ, I just noticed you tagged me.

I watched Josef Smith's video and I like AG Hayden's vibe/energy better. Not sure why, just a feeling. Lol

I don't try to break it down or analyze too much. I just go with what and how I feel when talking to a guy.

Listening to this Josef dude I was bored. I had trouble getting through the whole thing. If it were me he was talking to, I would have politely excused myself from the conversation way before it ended in the video.

Not so with AG Hayden. But every woman is different so don't judge by me. Obviously the girl he was talking to enjoyed his vibe and style.

I will comment on one noticeable difference though.

AG Hayen opens with a direct, upbeat and positive statement - you're cute! It'a all about his delivery/vibe/energy when making the comment.

Versus Josef Smith opening with "hey excuse me, I noticed you walking by and thought you looked really confident." His delivery sounded a bit rehearsed and dry IMO. His vibe/energy seemed off. To ME.

It's a subtle difference and may not be all that significant; again no rhyme or reason just a feeling..

 

[Cheeky_James]

Apologies CJ, I just noticed you tagged me.

I watched Josef Smith's video and I like AG Hayden's vibe/energy better. Not sure why, just a feeling. Lol

I don't try to break it down or analyze too much. I just go with what and how I feel when talking to a guy.

Listening to this Josef dude I was bored. I had trouble getting through the whole thing. If it were me he was talking to, I would have politely excused myself from the conversation way before it ended in the video.

Not so with AG Hayden. But every woman is different so don't judge by me. Obviously the girl he was talking to enjoyed his vibe and style.

I will comment on one noticeable difference though.

AG Hayen opens with a direct, upbeat and positive statement - you're cute! It'a all about his delivery/vibe/energy when making the comment.

Versus Josef Smith opening with "hey excuse me, I noticed you walking by and thought you looked really confident." His delivery sounded a bit rehearsed and dry IMO. His vibe/energy seemed off. To ME.

It's a subtle difference and may not be all that significant; again no rhyme or reason just a feeling..

I think your responding to AGs tonality tbh,
When he repeats his “you’re cute “ line, his tone has a bit of snap to it. “You’re CUTE”.
And his next question has authority tone to it,
“Who are you here with?”
Girls def respond to an authority tonality ime.
My lil player friend had that tone when opening,
And so does Julien Blanc,,,

maybe that’s the feeling you mean…?
like a submissive & aroused feeling.
Yknow like “ eeeeeeee! I think I’m about to get WET!!”

you dirty, dirty …

 

[Sega Genesis]

CJ, if by tonality (i.e. his voice expressing emotion and giving meaning to his words) then yes, very similar to his "vibe" and energy which I mentioned in my post.

Nothing new about that, I think most women feel this way.

Re getting "wet" lol, I don't think to myself "I'm about to get wet." Either I get wet or I don't it's nothing I am consciously aware of before it happens.

When I talk to a guy I either feel attracted or I don't. I don't pay much attention to his "game."

Like AG Hayden even says in his videos, it's not about game or strategies. If you're calibrated and authentic and able to have a fun natural free-flowing conversation with a girl you just met, you're halfway there.

I found Josef Smith's tonality and energy boring and stiff. Thats all and JMO.

 

[Cheeky_James]

CJ, if by tonality (i.e. his voice expressing emotion and giving meaning to his words) then yes, very similar to his "vibe" and energy which I mentioned in my post.

Nothing new about that, I think most women feel this way.

Re getting "wet" lol, I don't think to myself "I'm about to get wet." Either I get wet or I don't it's nothing I am consciously aware of before it happens.

When I talk to a guy I either feel attracted or I don't. I don't pay much attention to his "game."

Like AG Hayden even says in his videos, it's not about game or strategies. If you're calibrated and authentic and able to have a fun natural free-flowing conversation with a girl you just met, you're halfway there.

I found Josef Smith's tonality and energy boring and stiff. Thats all and JMO.

Oh right. Thanks for the correction on the wetness.
Btw out of curiousity. How quick can the wetness commence? On sight , like across a room before the male has approached ? Or is it triggered when when he’s up close and in person…when he touches the female .. or what.

Yeah I kinda had that feeling about Smith,
He talks extra slow and almost like he’s forcefully tryna drop his voice into it’s lowest register.
His theory vids are great content , but he’s hard to listen to .

re your comment
“When I talk to a guy I either feel attracted or I don't. I don't pay much attention to his "game."

oh oh. This is not good news for a lot of dudes who believe Game makes the difference.
Careful now!

and yes vibe and energy pretty much equals voice tonality (in my book).
this is a good example of 2 contrasting “vibes “ with Smith vs Hayden. Thanks

 

[Sega Genesis]

Btw out of curiousity. How quick can the wetness commence? On sight , like across a room before the male has approached ?

^^Every woman is different and for some women, yes on sight!

For ME? I need to feel (there's that word again LOL) some sort of mental or emotional connection through conversation first before my sexual attraction fully takes hold.

But still doesn't mean I'm gonna jump in bed with him.. Read @tksniper recent thread about social conditioning, attraction and trust.

Again just me, I am just one woman. There are plenty of women that have no problem immediately acting on their sexual attraction and jumping into bed with a new guy she just met.