"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Going to meet that cute 49 yr old teacher tonight. How to keep frame?

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So her and a friend are going to the movies at the mall tonight and I'm going to meet her at the food court at Starbucks after it. No more dinner dates for first dates from OLD lol although I don't consider this a date. More just screening her lol since her girlfriend is with her and at least it won't cost me much.

So, since her friend will be there which means she will be screening me as well and probably telling this chick what she thinks of me.

So how do I keep frame here since her friend will be with her so I don't lose frame or get asked a bunch of questions by her?

I'm buying my own damn drink too lol.

She said I could have joined them for the movie but movies are awkward to get to know someone since you can't talk.

Any tips? I consider this a pre screening not really a date.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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You are going to meet someone after they watch a movie? They are going to be thinking about the movie they experienced and you are going to be the boring guy afterwards. You already have a weak frame because of the timing of the date. Make up an excuse that something has come up and set up a time when its not after they finished a movie. Just have plans otherwise in case they flake on you.
 

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Keep the visit short and make absolutely sure that you leave on a high note.
Don't ignore her friend., In fact, it would probably not hurt if you actually gave her friend a slight bit more attention than the gal you are meeting (but don't over do it). This way, the gal you like... doesn't get too full of herself and her friend will think of you as being socially engaging.
Also be sure that you are the one that ejects first. Again, leave when things seem to be the most fun.
"I enjoyed meeting you two. It was fun. I've got to leave now, but maybe some other time."

Give us a follow up tonight on how things went.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Keep the visit short and make absolutely sure that you leave on a high note.
Don't ignore her friend., In fact, it would probably not hurt if you actually gave her friend a slight bit more attention than the gal you are meeting (but don't over do it). This way, the gal you like... doesn't get too full of herself and her friend will think of you as being socially engaging.
Also be sure that you are the one that ejects first. Again, leave when things seem to be the most fun.
"I enjoyed meeting you two. It was fun. I've got to leave now, but maybe some other time."
Just coffee so won't last long. More like a pre screening before I hangout more with her. After my last few OLD dates cost me upwards of $60! Not doing that again!
 

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Here's a lesson in mathematics and psychology.

Mathematics:
Currently, five members have responded to the OP
2 responded with personal "tips" as the OP requested.
3 responded with but offered nothing of relevancy.
40% success toward the forums intent
60% failure toward the forums intent.

Psychology:
Within this posting, we can conclude that 60% of the responding members are either incapable of offering sound advice... and/or are so miserable within their own lives.... that their desperation is showing,
After all, If their only purpose for being here ..... is to invest energy against an advice seeking member, then this in itself is quite revealing.

@biggoal , Although I won't deny that you've sometimes gotten on my nerves (I'm sure I've done this to you and others as well) ... I can respect you above approx. 60% of the forum members. The reason is simple: you'll openly admit your personal disadvantages or flaws (we all have them to some degree ).

Judging by the quoted responses below, your life could be worse (you could've ended up like one of them). The quoted postings below are no different than some customers we see in a Walm*rt store. If we are feeling down about ourselves, one look at their misery and we realize that we have it a lot better than we realized.


small goals be like Jim Carey @ 3:37 :rofl:
Lmao so weak bro. So weak.
Do you need "frame" for a 50 year old Woman? Don't you go on a date like every weekend with grannies? You should have this figured out by now, just sayin.
 
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So I met up with her and her friend. She's actually hotter in person. Adorable. Very chatty and they were more like 19 year olds chatting back and forth a lot. When I met her she gave me a nice hug and basically put her head up against mine so she wasn't creeped lol.

Overall her and her friend said I need to find someone more in their 30s and can have kids. They suggested I try the Tampa area with my business around younger people. They grew up around here and said it's very tough to meet young people and said I need to get out of here.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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They grew up around here and said it's very tough to meet young people and said I need to get out of here.
Congratulations on the good meet up. They expressed the same concern you have in the past about meeting younger women where you currently reside.
It may well be time to think about relocating if that’s economically feasible…
 

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Congratulations on the good meet up. They expressed the same concern you have in the past about meeting younger women where you currently reside.
It may well be time to think about relocating if that’s economically feasible…
Here is map. I'm in one of those dark green counties south of Tampa, in SWFL. Each county south of Hillsborough County as you can see is dark green, yet those coastal counties are highly populated with median age ranges of 50 to 56 depending on the county. Hillsborough county median age is 37.

 

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So you’re living in a retirement area, but you’re not retirement age. Take the women's advice and move.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I'm not sure if "cute" is the right adjective to describe a 49 y.o., bruh.....

I'd say "attractive" would be more appropriate.....

..... I've known some very gorgeous older women so I do commend you if you scored a date....
 

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Does that look like hell compared to Dallas?
Yes. I vacationed a few years in the Bonita Springs, Fort Meyers area. It’s cheap retirement vs. the Atlantic side, but I can’t imagine getting a young date there.
Determined men that know where they want to go can usually make things happen to change course. Think about it.
 

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Overall her and her friend said I need to find someone more in their 30s and can have kids.
Isn't that what people have been telling you on here all along? Now that a hot woman is offering the same advice that everyone else has already offered from the beginning are you going to follow through this time?
 

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Yes. I vacationed a few years in the Bonita Springs, Fort Meyers area. It’s cheap retirement vs. the Atlantic side, but I can’t imagine getting a young date there.
Determined men that know where they want to go can usually make things happen to change course. Think about it.
Yep! Btw I live 30 mins from the places you listed. My county is even older than that, and to the north of there. It's expensive in bonita ft. Myers and estero now. Mostly wealthy new England old snobs. The decent looking few young women there are big time snobs and gold diggers. Even my area I see cute 40 year olds with dudes in their 60s. Makes me sick.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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