"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Trumpetman

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Okk guys so on sat I was w/ my g/f and we were on the bus. It was like 11 and we were goin home from a band thing. We were gettin close and I started to creep my pants near her pu$$y. I eventually got there and started rubbing. She didn't stop me so I took it as a good thing but today one of her friends came up to me and was like brandon u pushin it a lil too far and said that my g/f was really uncomfortable that day. what do I do now guys?


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Brandon
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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PiHiPlaya

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Don't rub on her while her friends are watching, it's distasteful.

Be a Gentleman

Be a Man

Get a Room
 

Porky

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She didn't stop you, she didn't say no, so you're blameless.

You're also in an LTR. Talk to her about it - I mean, the topic of sex has to come up at some point. If her talking to her friend about your sex life bothers you (and I know it would bother me, but only if her friends then judged me for it) then talk to her about that too.
 

jakeyboy

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just not on the f-ing bus ok. dont be a cheapass

its a highly public place even if it was pretty late. any normal girl would feel uncomforatable with the exception of a highly horny booty call. which i presume you would not want for a gf.
 

AFK Protector

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Originally posted by Trumpetman
We were gettin close and I started to creep my pants near her pu$$y. I eventually got there and started rubbing.
How do you creep your pants to someone's pvssy? That would look kinda weird. btw, you need to see where both of you are on this PDA business (PDA = public display of affection). But listen to PiHiPlaya....don't make her seem like some wh0re. Girls have that more than anything else.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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wcknightjr

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1) I think these two were relatively alone (no friends, direct witnesses, etc.)

2) You gotta get on a level where she feels more comfortable telling you about it than having her friends tell you.

3) Maybe pick a little better location. Even though you may have felt no one would see you two, she probably wasn't prepared to take that same risk, but felt telling you to stop would seem too prudish.
 
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