"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Sneevox

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Okay, so this question is simple:
Is a girl with a "boyfriend" an automatic no? I've pursued multiple girls with boyfriends and it has ended up.. badly. Maybe it's just my approach. I mean, I used to be their emotional tampon, but now I just act like I already have them in my grasps.. because I basically do.

I guess the REAL question here is "At what point can I tell if she is willing to let me steal her, and how do I go about doing that?"
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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penkitten

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if you do not mind dealing with any drama that someone with a boyfriend may/may not bring into your life, then go for it.
 

Night-hawk

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Are there not plenty of single girls you can game?

Why bother with the girlfriend stealing?

Is this an entitlement thing? Do you get some rush out of this?
 

Robert28

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I bet you're the type of guy that will go around his head to scratch his ass. why go to all the trouble when there are MUCH easier ways...like going after single girls. sure even some of the single ones "have" boyfriends, but you're really battling an uphill climb here going after girls you KNOW have boyfriends.
 

Zerro

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If she's not interested then she has a boyfriend: whether or not he really exists doesn't matter.
If she's interested then she'll consider you as a replacement for when she tires of her boyfriend.
If she's really interested then she'll forget that she has a boyfriend, just don't act surprised if she then forgets you when the next dude comes along.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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If she finds you attractive, she's single and if she finds you unattractive, she's got a boyfriend or is happily married! :trouble:

Case dismissed.
 

r0cky

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Sneevox said:
I guess the REAL question here is "At what point can I tell if she is willing to let me steal her, and how do I go about doing that?"
This form of thinking comes from waiting for the perfect moment. You will never be able to tell if or when she is going to be willing to be stolen.
You must assume that she likes you and make your move.

Sometimes you'll be wrong, but you know what? Sometimes you wil be right.

A man does not wait for his moment, he creates it.
 

Sneevox

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Robert28 said:
I bet you're the type of guy that will go around his head to scratch his ass. why go to all the trouble when there are MUCH easier ways...like going after single girls. sure even some of the single ones "have" boyfriends, but you're really battling an uphill climb here going after girls you KNOW have boyfriends.
I thought this forum was for helping, not insulting.
Thanks anyways.
 

Sneevox

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r0cky said:
This form of thinking comes from waiting for the perfect moment. You will never be able to tell if or when she is going to be willing to be stolen.
You must assume that she likes you and make your move.

Sometimes you'll be wrong, but you know what? Sometimes you wil be right.

A man does not wait for his moment, he creates it.
Thank you. That's helped me.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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