Girls wants to be texting buddies?

[espanish]

Hi guys
I believe at this point this is a lost cause and not even worth posting about but wanted to get your opinions
I asked for this girl's number saturday night and she said she doesn't feel comfortable giving her number. she said first she wants to chat on instagram for a while then she will give me her number. I said I don't know how to use instagram. she said ok give me your number I will text you. usually girls that say this are lying. but I gave her my number. sunday afternoon I got a text from her "hey it's me, how is your day going" etc
every time I ask her to come out she changes the subject and asks me questions about my life, wants to know more about me.
my last text went unanswered.

I dont know what her problem is, if she is not interested why text in the first place? time to move on?

 

[Zimbabwe]

time to move on?

Do we really need to answer that?

 

[espanish]

Do we really need to answer that?

I am just trying to understand her point of view. what is it that she doesn't feel comfortable with? what was she trying to accomplish by texting me in the first place?

The thirst is real.

It’s also an education issue. Men are taught to pursue, even though pursuit rarely works. BluePill Men constantly scratch their heads and wonder why it’s the girls they don’t like, that like them. Duh

what the hell are you talking about? so don't pursue? when you go to a party you just stand there waiting for women to pursue you? good luck with that.

 

[bario]

Not worth the energy. Next her please.

 

[EyeBRollin]

OP, she doesn’t like you.

Women need male attention to survive. It is oxygen. She is using you for free attention. This girl will never be interested in anything more with you.

In the future, either decline or ignore her invitation to chat via text.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

OP: Nope, you are not her emotional tampon, women get to have comfort from men when she provides them value. In this forum value = sexual access.

Do not cast pearls before swine.

 

[bat soup]

Hi guys
I believe at this point this is a lost cause and not even worth posting about but wanted to get your opinions
I asked for this girl's number saturday night and she said she doesn't feel comfortable giving her number. she said first she wants to chat on instagram for a while then she will give me her number. I said I don't know how to use instagram. she said ok give me your number I will text you. usually girls that say this are lying. but I gave her my number. sunday afternoon I got a text from her "hey it's me, how is your day going" etc
every time I ask her to come out she changes the subject and asks me questions about my life, wants to know more about me.
my last text went unanswered.

I dont know what her problem is, if she is not interested why text in the first place? time to move on?

Women like to collect orbiters to boost their egos.
They love to get messages from guys that desperately want to bang them because it makes them feel good.
However, they don't want to actually meet these guys because they might make a move.
So they keep them at a distance by making endless excuses and only ever talking over text.

 

[SW15]

I believe at this point this is a lost cause and not even worth posting about but wanted to get your opinions
I asked for this girl's number saturday night and she said she doesn't feel comfortable giving her number. she said first she wants to chat on instagram for a while then she will give me her number. I said I don't know how to use instagram. she said ok give me your number I will text you. usually girls that say this are lying. but I gave her my number. sunday afternoon I got a text from her "hey it's me, how is your day going" etc
every time I ask her to come out she changes the subject and asks me questions about my life, wants to know more about me.
my last text went unanswered.

I dont know what her problem is, if she is not interested why text in the first place? time to move on?

Delete all electronic traces of her existence. Comply or bye. Her behavior is complete horse shiit.

Her problem is low interest level.

"Comply or bye" is the attitude that governs all else. If she complies, she has interest. If not, bye.

 

[thelambofdeth]

Dude to you have to ask? This isn't an ambiguous case, she's clearly not interested.

 

[Barrister]

OP - generalizations usually get us in trouble. However, I feel safe in telling you that if a chick tells you she just "wants to chat on instagram" you can consider this a polite way of saying "not interested - but I will take some free attention from you anyway to stroke my ego."

I know some of the guys on here think pursuit through Instagram is OK - I am not one of those people. If a chick references me adding her on Instagram in any way, it is insta-next for me.

 

[In2theGame]

From a Alan Roger Currie Article:

"Women who operate as Manipulative Timewasters are those women who will initially, temporarily, or even indefinitely seek to give a man the misleading impression that she is a genuine Reciprocator. However, deep-down that woman is nothing more than a Rejecter displaying the disingenuous façade of an enthusiastic Reciprocator.

Women who are Manipulative Timewaster types love to socially interact with men in order to be flattered, entertained, and “wined and dined.” They will maintain a number of platonic male friends who will empathetically listen to their problems, disappointments, and frustrations.

Unlike a woman who is a genuine Rejecter, these women will never be forthright with men about their lack of sexual interest in them, since this would ruin their “game.” They want men to always believe in the possibility of sex so that they can continue to mine the time and attention of their “friends.”


The best way to deal with these types of Women is to put them on the spot hard. You let them know you want to engaged in sex with them, Are they down... Yes or No. Don't leave room for in-between vague answers.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

OP, change the subject to sex talk to get rid of her. At least you can "win" the interaction. Not much of a consolation, but better than nothing.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Women will always waste your time if you’re a man with no boundaries and no awareness.

A woman will almost always reject you if you tell them that you want to have sex with her.

You need to understand the Game here. Women have got to act like they aren’t Easy. This maintains their value. Women know that her value is attached to her notches. So wtf do you think she’s thinking when you say “wanna have sex? It’s a Yes or No”

She’ll be thinking “he doesn’t understand women. He doesn’t get it. He doesn’t understand what women fear more than anything else - having sex with losers.”

Women are low-T so they don’t have the horniness men have. They are far more patient. She’ll even reject you for an imaginary man she’ll meet in the future one day. She doesn’t “need” to have sex all the time, like men. So she has a huge advantage here with her ability to control her (lack of) desire for you.

The way to have sex with women in a 2022 smp is almost entirely a combination of indirect seduction and non-verbal communication. And if you don’t know what that kind of communication looks like, you’ll fall prey to having your time wasted by women forever.

The biggest rule is this - once a woman knows that you like her, especially pre-sex, you’re finished. It’s best if she continues to be unsure of your feelings for her post-sex too if you intend to continue the relationship.

You put them on the spot hard with time-tested nd well-executed escalation lines and moves that have been proven to weed out the contenders from pretenders. Not a "yes or no".

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Smart verbal escalation works great. I was responding to the other guy who was suggesting Yes/No.

But I’d emphasise this - the verbal escalation should be sexual, but not direct. Women aren’t stupid. And they love you way more if you can be indirect and set up some dots for them to connect. It’s a little play. You’re just playing with her, and she loves it. She loves a man that can raise his eyebrow in such a way that communicates “time to come home with me” without the guy ever even needing to say it.

I agree on what you're emphasizing. It works well on women who are genuinely interested, and also women who aren't but pretend to be (by showing them you see what they're doing at that you won't tolerate their bs).

 

[Modern Man Advice]

Hi guys
I believe at this point this is a lost cause and not even worth posting about but wanted to get your opinions
I asked for this girl's number saturday night and she said she doesn't feel comfortable giving her number. she said first she wants to chat on instagram for a while then she will give me her number. I said I don't know how to use instagram. she said ok give me your number I will text you. usually girls that say this are lying. but I gave her my number. sunday afternoon I got a text from her "hey it's me, how is your day going" etc
every time I ask her to come out she changes the subject and asks me questions about my life, wants to know more about me.
my last text went unanswered.

I dont know what her problem is, if she is not interested why text in the first place? time to move on?

I know you are looking for an analysis of her mindset, but trust me you are wasting your time. No point in trying to understand what she may or may not be thinking.

First off because we would all be guessing. Second, because making that effort and knowing will not help you as it is not a reflection of who you are or what you are doing but of her mindset.

Lastly, we have to stop spending our resources (time, money, etc, etc) in people that are not committed or invested in us the same way we are. Trust me, man, if she was interested/serious she would have no issue giving out her number. It's just a phone number, not her SSN.

To put it simply she is unsure about you and has medium to low interest in you. Focus on women that show more interest in you AND put some leg into it.


Modern Man Advice

 

[BillyPilgrim]

So what would your actions be if you were OP?

Because the OP has shown his hand by asking her out multiple times, just segue into sex talk out of the blue so as to abruptly cut off the narcissistic supply. This way the dismissal is conducted by the OP on his terms. Not much of a "win", but better than nothing.

The cost of negative interactions does build up over time, you want to be stoic but you also want to avoid the lingering bad taste in your mouth. Control your emotions, but also control the interaction. It's better to troll than be trolled.

 

[nismo-4]

Hi guys
I believe at this point this is a lost cause and not even worth posting about but wanted to get your opinions
I asked for this girl's number saturday night and she said she doesn't feel comfortable giving her number. she said first she wants to chat on instagram for a while then she will give me her number. I said I don't know how to use instagram. she said ok give me your number I will text you. usually girls that say this are lying. but I gave her my number. sunday afternoon I got a text from her "hey it's me, how is your day going" etc
every time I ask her to come out she changes the subject and asks me questions about my life, wants to know more about me.
my last text went unanswered.

I dont know what her problem is, if she is not interested why text in the first place? time to move on?

Hell yeah move on! Unless you want to stay her orbiter.

She doesn't feel comfortable giving her number to guys that aren't Chad. If Lebron James asked for her number, do you honestly think she'll want to talk with him on IG first before giving her number?

And her wanting your number first is a red flag. I'm surprised she actually texted you.

When she deflected you going out with her, that would've been the time I deleted her. You want sex, she wants orbiters and fans. She's a narcissistic b**ch who will give you a headache.

Drop her. Tyrone dropped a gallon of cüm in her bootyhole anyway.

Case closed. Leave my courtroom and go treat yourself to some good eats.

 

[In2theGame]

A woman will almost always reject you if you tell them that you want to have sex with her.

You need to understand the Game here. Women have got to act like they aren’t Easy. This maintains their value. Women know that her value is attached to her notches. So wtf do you think she’s thinking when you say “wanna have sex? It’s a Yes or No”

Women are low-T so they don’t have the horniness men have.

I have to respectfully disagree with these. I believe it's how you tell a Woman you want to have sex with her. It has to be done in a smooth and seductive way. I know because I have done it many many times with success.

I agree that Women do not want to seem like an "easy slut" or some chick that gives it up to anyone but the way sex is presented to them will make the difference in how she responds to it.

Yes Women have less testosterone however I truly believe Women are way more horny, more kinky and outright nasty in their deep sexual lustful desires than Men. They just have a masterful way of covering up that fact.

If OP keeps on with indirectness, she will keep him in a merry-go-round indefinitely where he will waste his time with a Woman who deep down has no desire to have sex with him. If he came across and told her "Listen, I enjoy talking to you and whatnot but I have to tell you, I find you very sexy and I think we should hook up this weekend or the next. My place or yours" or something to that effect....

I have asked Women out to meet up for a drink and they'd respond with "...I'm not sure, what are you planning after the drink?".... I responded with "To be honest, I think you're incredibly sexy and after drinks, I want to bend you over and make you cvm hard"..... You would THINK that I would have gotten ignored or received a harsh response but actually the opposite happened and I ended up banging them.

OP doesnt have to be as blunt as that but he should make it clear that he has a desire to have sex with her. The sooner the better so he doesnt waste his time.

 

[Gamisch]

Sure. That’s how most guys get laid. They ask women for sex.

But that’s not Game. It’s actually pretty boring. If there’s one thing a woman knows about you it’s this - she knows you want to have sex with her. It ain’t that interesting. She expects it.

Fundamentally, if a woman knows you want to have sex with her you lose enormous leverage. You’re just another guy who wants to bang her. Even if you’re Leonardo DiCaprio. Asking for sex turns women off no matter who you are. It’s making her the prize.

Game is when a girl wants to have sex with you. Game is not asking or telling a woman that you want to have sex with her. That, unfortunately, is simping. But it’s ok. Women expect you to simp and they’ll still throw you a bone occasionally.

The way for a man to get laid is to “display.” Women indicate interest. Men display, women choose.

Your job is to move the interaction somewhere private where sex can happen - you can be direct about this. You can be direct about everything other than letting her know that sex will happen. There has to be an element of mystery or uncertainty otherwise it’s just too sex-focused, without fantasy or build-up.

If she thinks you’re a guy who just wants to “get-off” then she’ll see you as a wank monkey. She won’t respect you as a powerful man in control.

Women need a fantasy attached to the sex. Women are low T and are not nearly as into straight sexual intercourse like men are. That’s why all female erotic literature is story-based and the build up to sex is everything.

I agree . There recently was a thread about a famous sport guy in a plane that got arrested for sexual assault. And the Elon Musk case where he settled. Both happened in a plain if I recall correctly. That's why even they get rejected, they are too upfront and take away the the fantasy.

I think @In2theGame dealt with masculine women with a very high interest level to get results like that. Or obviousl slvts . I do believe him tho . Both interesting takes.

But truth be told the James Bond type of dude never talks about sex but still gets all the women.

 

[In2theGame]

I'm going to leave it alone because you guys feel what works for you, works for you. I've met thousands of Women and I have experienced what works well for me and that is direct (and being smooth about it). As far as me banging only slutty or low quality Women, I'm not sure what that means? Do you mean Women working at Starbucks that has nothing going for her? or some tattooed up chick that smokes pot all day? because I have banged Women who were in very high professions such as Doctors, high positions at financial institutions, Women who have modeled, Women who were on television (NBC) and of course the hot college types of chicks... My main chick right now earns over $200K.

It's just what has worked for me. One of the most sexiest Women I was fvcking, I met her out one night and told her straight away that I thought she had an amazing ass. Long story short, I had her driving 2 hours multiple times to come fvck me. (I even temporarily uploaded a bra and panties pic she sent me). The posters that saw the pic agreed she was smoking hot.

As for the girl that asked me "What are we doing after drinks", it ultimately turned out she had a boyfriend so it could of been mischievous planning on her part.

Overall, I'm not going to argue because I know everyone has their own beliefs and views. I can only go by my own experiences and what Women themselves have told me.

Not looking to Hi-Jack the OP's thread. We can maybe debate Direct vs Indirect in it's own thread however its a never ending debate because again, everyone has their own beliefs and experiences.