"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
In any case I've been approached by such woman several imes, no biggie, it's easier for you then because you are 100% sure there's interest on her end, just have her qualify herself to you.
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
it totally threw me.
i thought they were going to gang rape me in the elevator. i didnt AFC though, i joked it up with them.
when chit like that happens it makes you realize how uncomfortable the world must be for women sometimes.
i mean, hey, i had no physical worries so it was just interesting.
i can't imagine how that must feel to women who don't know what an unknown guy (or guys) are capable of.
J
The thing is they're used to it. Like self-mastery said if they turn the tables on me and Im not expecting it at all it really throws me off my game.
If I could choose between having to approach and being approached all night, Id probably choose nr. 2 tho
Warrior Princess
Don Juan
I don't mind girls asking for my number, calling me and being forward or even a touch clingy, but sexually forward women in general put me off.
I actually had a woman try something resembling speed seduction with me once. She started talking about animal mating rituals and orgasms etc. Damn freak!
Before I even say anything, the UG of the group opens me with "Hey gorgeous" and I get assaulted with a barrage of compliments from the group as a whole. "I like your shirt" "You have pretty eyes" "I like your shoes" "You look like a skater... that's hot. Do you snowboard too?" I was caught completely off gaurd. I just kind of answered a few questions they threw at me, and then went to my room and tried to figure out what the hell just happened.
My game has improved a lot since then, though, and now I would probably agree with their compliments, bust on them for being too in love with me, joke that they could pay me for a date, tell them that they're all out of luck because I'm saving myself for when someone real special comes along (in a cheeky manner) and ask her what makes her so special. I'd have fun with it.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.