"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Girls like sex with the lights off??
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Scars
Master Don Juan
Mistic
Senior Don Juan
Hint. The girls who want the lights on are typically the same ones who want it in the as$ and love getting their hair pulled, called sluts, spanked a bit, etc., you get the idea.
Younger girls and house on the prairie religious types are typically not as comfortable and want the lights off or very low.
Scar Tissue
Don Juan
But getting a dimmer would be perfect for this situation, find a lighting amount that both of you can enjoy. And who knows, maybe in time she will let you increase the light. You could help your chances of that by complimenting her body at times. You know, like letting her know you think she is beautiful and stuff.
No dimmer? Keep your computer screen on, stereo, tv, etc
Almost all electronics these days have some sort of glow it seems like so it shouldnt be hard to find something that gives off light.
808
Don Juan
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Nexus Polaris
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Not necessarily. I used to get girls to take it in the ass by witholding regular sex until they agreed to anal. You'd be amazed at how well it worked. Even ones that said, "Never ever," eventually caved. And this was back in my WBAFC days before I had any clue what I was doing.Scars said:
Granted, that was before I had ever slept with them, though. You can't exactly get away with that kind of stuff as easily if you're already in a relationship.
So I guess I probably agree that he should just mention casually trying it with the lights on. Candles and dimmers are also really good ideas.
CarlitosWay
Master Don Juan
When I first started sleeping with my new interest a couple of weeks ago, she would always object to me turning the lights on in the car, but yesterday as she was giving me head, I turned them on and she didn't say ****.
WhitePimp
Master Don Juan
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Next time, keep the lights on, and just JUMP straight into sex.
Once you frame that it is cool between you two with the lights on, she'll have nothing to worry about.
You have to start instilling this new habit of having sex with lights on with her gradually.
Hope that helps.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
comic_relief
Master Don Juan
yep, my gf won't have sex with the lights off unless she hasn't shaved down thereNight Owl said:
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Just a Shot Away
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So if you guys are laying in bed about to fall asleep, and things start heating up...you'll go, "Oh wait, hang on." and get up, turn the lights on, and get back in bed to bang? That sounds so odd to me...
Accension
Senior Don Juan
If you don't like it, gradually have sex at lighter times of the day until it's dark with lights on.
I've heard this one heaps and this is the usual progression.
tl;dr build sexual comfort.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.