AFK Protector
Master Don Juan
I used to be a nice guy. Now I was flirting, not giving in as you read about in my other topic, but girls are starting to call me mean. I feel uncomfortable. Help. Thanks.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Girls called me mean
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Tails
Senior Don Juan
Stop being mean.
AFK Protector
Master Don Juan
OK screw it all. I'm gonna go back to playing it safe being nice to everyone.
AFK Protector
Master Don Juan
Man, this frustration is building up...everything I do isn't DJ like and it turns out to be mean. At least when I was a nice guy, everyone was cool with me. However, this girl is just one out of many and I'm still a nice guy them all. I need to reconcile.Originally posted by Tails
Stop being mean.
-Nice guy for life.
AFK Protector
Master Don Juan
ok screw it all again. This girl wasn't exactly a goodie two shoes towards me neither. Some women deserve my respect, others don't. She's simply not one of them. I'm gonna ignore her. I dno't need people like her in my life. Freaking control freak think she owns by AFK protecting 4ss. And about by book convo. now that i think about it, i did the right thing. She can carry her own d@mn books. Always freeloading off stuff I'm accountable for. God, I'm mad. There's my plan:
-Believe in what I believe
-Respect people who respect me back
-Don't take **** from girls like her
-Deny false accusations. :\
-Believe in what I believe
-Respect people who respect me back
-Don't take **** from girls like her
-Deny false accusations. :\
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
AFK Protector
Master Don Juan
ok...im changing the title to "a girl" instead of "girls."
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Be specific. You're too vague about what you're doing that's "mean" for anyone to offer serious advice.
Yeah, if it's in a playful way, and you busted on her, you're in.Originally posted by squirrels
Be specific. You're too vague about what you're doing that's "mean" for anyone to offer serious advice.
If you called her a wh0re and spit in her face, yeah. You're mean...
I presume you're in HS, you are wise beyond your years...Remember that list you made...Originally posted by AFK Protector
ok screw it all again. This girl wasn't exactly a goodie two shoes towards me neither. Some women deserve my respect, others don't. She's simply not one of them. I'm gonna ignore her. I dno't need people like her in my life. Freaking control freak think she owns by AFK protecting 4ss. And about by book convo. now that i think about it, i did the right thing. She can carry her own d@mn books. Always freeloading off stuff I'm accountable for. God, I'm mad. There's my plan:
-Believe in what I believe
-Respect people who respect me back
-Don't take **** from girls like her
-Deny false accusations. :\
ToP DoN
Banned
who cares
about her....move on
about her....move on
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Being called "mean" is good.
It is also a test to see whether you will back track to being "nice". If you do, then the girl loses attraction straight away because she knows that it is just an act you are putting on.
When a girl calls me "mean" or "bastard" or something along those lines, I just laugh at her and then sarcastly be SUPER nice to her (hug her, pat her on the head etc).
It is also a test to see whether you will back track to being "nice". If you do, then the girl loses attraction straight away because she knows that it is just an act you are putting on.
When a girl calls me "mean" or "bastard" or something along those lines, I just laugh at her and then sarcastly be SUPER nice to her (hug her, pat her on the head etc).
LordBrian
Don Juan
A friend of mine who I am not DJing calls me an A-hole after watching me with other girls. I think thats better than being a nice guy...
Its funny, after she says that I say,
"Now ask me if I care"
*imitating a girls voice* "Do you care brian?"
"No, I dont"
followed by a laugh.
Its funny, after she says that I say,
"Now ask me if I care"
*imitating a girls voice* "Do you care brian?"
"No, I dont"
followed by a laugh.
Walk this Way
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It's not mean if you make sure she knows you're just joking. One time a woman and I were teasing each other, and I crossed the line when I said, "Hey you know ________, I was petting my dog last night in my dream. And then I realized it was your leg!" [Yeah, it was that kinda night]. And she laughed but sounded like she felt bad, so I went up to her, put my arm around her, brought her close too my body, and tenderly kissed her and she smiled.
I hate being mean, or overly macho. There's a very real difference between being a jerk or a player and being a decent person.
I hate being mean, or overly macho. There's a very real difference between being a jerk or a player and being a decent person.
walkthisway: was that HB your gf or someone you were dating. cause no girl would let you kiss them unless you they're already intimate with you.Originally posted by Walk this Way
It's not mean if you make sure she knows you're just joking. One time a woman and I were teasing each other, and I crossed the line when I said, "Hey you know ________, I was petting my dog last night in my dream. And then I realized it was your leg!" [Yeah, it was that kinda night]. And she laughed but sounded like she felt bad, so I went up to her, put my arm around her, brought her close too my body, and tenderly kissed her and she smiled.
I hate being mean, or overly macho. There's a very real difference between being a jerk or a player and being a decent person.
yea, there's a difference between beinga jerk,player, and nice guy. you can be called a jerk, just cause of the things you do. but the girls will call on it as if it's a tease. actually, if a girl said that i was mean or a jerk, i would take it as a compliment.
it's something you rarely hear them say, and when they do say it, it means they have a somehwat high IL in you.
It's easy to tell if they're joking by the expression on their face, and by what you did to them. if you actualy did something bad to hurt their feelings or criticize them...then u KNOW you were being a ****.
on the other hand, if they call you a DI*K, then, well they just plain hate your guts.
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Master Don Juan
Ok guys. I'm back. Yea, I'm in high school. I guess I was freaking out about a research paper, a few debate/math tourneys etc. Very nice points. I think the last post I made contradicted itself. I'm not going to go back being nice. Yes, decent and interesting is good...nice is just boring. I'm not letting her push me around anymore, which I feel is my biggest accomplishment so far. I'm gonna stick to those 4 things.
When they call me mean, its after: I don't act like a chump and their personal b1tch. I offer resistance. I make them wait. I don't give them money (lol...I never give them money).
^^^I noticed all of those have DON'T in them in reference to stuff I don't do for them. I'm through with that crap. i'm here to live my own life...I mean...hell, I don't even get PAID for that first class service I used to perform.
And you're all right. Now that I think of it, when I'm just a TAD bit "mean" (joking around with them...I always make it apparent I'm joking...they must be dense or something) they say I'm mean...when I KNOW there are guys they put up with 10 times as "mean" as me...if you can call me mean. Great tips, thanks for the encouragement, and it feels great to be back.
When they call me mean, its after: I don't act like a chump and their personal b1tch. I offer resistance. I make them wait. I don't give them money (lol...I never give them money).
^^^I noticed all of those have DON'T in them in reference to stuff I don't do for them. I'm through with that crap. i'm here to live my own life...I mean...hell, I don't even get PAID for that first class service I used to perform.
And you're all right. Now that I think of it, when I'm just a TAD bit "mean" (joking around with them...I always make it apparent I'm joking...they must be dense or something) they say I'm mean...when I KNOW there are guys they put up with 10 times as "mean" as me...if you can call me mean. Great tips, thanks for the encouragement, and it feels great to be back.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
AFK Protector
Master Don Juan
100% playful/teasing/flirting/joking. Good point. I needed that cold hard slap. I don't call girls wh0res, b1tches, or other derogatory terms.Originally posted by Reto
Yeah, if it's in a playful way, and you busted on her, you're in.
If you called her a wh0re and spit in her face, yeah. You're mean...
Walk this Way
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Originally posted by ScrewIt
walkthisway: was that HB your gf or someone you were dating. cause no girl would let you kiss them unless you they're already intimate with you.
She was a close friend. We had dated once before, and she was single when I kissed her, so it was no big deal. And I did it abruptly, so yeah...