"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Ok there is a girl I am interested in. She is clearly interested in me however is only interested when I am not. Its a case of where she is one of those girls who loves the chase and as soon as you show interest backs off. Its basically a lose lose situation. What I would like to know is is it possible to actually get these types of girls or are they emotionally unstable, love guy attention and the challenge? Im sure some people have encountered females similar to this, you know the ones who only love the chase and never commit.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Ok and how are such girls caught? Im positive she wants me just now but that is only because I am acting very disinterested. The minute I show interest she would back off like she did before.
 

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Catch her at her own game. If she shows insane interest, grab her and kiss her before she can breathe a word. Then ignore her.

She'll come running back ;)
 

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Mightymate how were u caught? What did it for you?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Just pick and choose the types of attention to give her. Don't give her anything concrete to go on when you give her attention (no "beyond a shadow of a doubt" words). No words, just actions.
Grabbing her and kissing her, then ignoring her would be a great thing to do, especially if done in a playful way.
I've known several girls like this, and they can be a lot of fun to work on. The fun part is seeing how they go about eliciting that elusive attention from you.......
 

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No input at all? Any will be much appreciated.
 

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Anything else other than the kiss then ignore?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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ganji games is when you ignore her completely so she becomes more interested in you. In the short run ganji games work great, in the long run, its not the best move to do.


Its such a shame we all have to master these games to get girls. Girls are so fvcking crazy. She likes you ...and once she finds out you like her, she doesnt like you anymore. Thats great....the minute a girl does that to me, im over her and done. No way am i letting a girl run me though the mill with these head tricks. I have to much to offer to be pu$$y footing around.

I say you cut this girl off completely and never look back. But you probably wont because you seem clueless.
 

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Girls lik that are caugh only by luck. For exampl You have to get some social status or date many woman so she sees You as a value and when she tries a date. You say You are busy. Then date her. Then busy, Etc. Hard to say.
 

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Ye I think ill just cut her off completely, although before when I did that she just came after me harder and I thought then maybe it could happen but as i showed interest she backed off. Im gonna have to just follow through this time and move on as these girls are almost impossible to get.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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its probably the best move you can do, so you dont waste time on a girl thats never going to put out.
 

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Originally posted by pokie87
Ok and how are such girls caught? Im positive she wants me just now but that is only because I am acting very disinterested. The minute I show interest she would back off like she did before.
tell me about it...some women do this for attention/boost ego. And some are just very good at playing aloof while hiding their true interest...in their minds they're playing out scenarios and keep wondering why you arent chasing them.

i guess a lot of times it's also easy to mistaken a girl's treating you nice for IL in you.

anyway just keep your eyes open and separate the attention hoes from the real ones with real interest.
 

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blueangel83 dont make me start chasing you
 
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