"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Hey guys... Let's talk life for a bit. Not even pickup.

Who are some good people to listen to/read to learn responsibility and succeed at your purpose? Some of the people I've been listening to and reading are pushing me through life and making me not so lost are:
David Goggins(Stay Hard)
Jocko Willink(Discipline will set you free)
Jordan B Peterson(Pick your own damn sacrifice)
RSD Derek("You need to sacrifice your short term emotions for your long term outcome")
AMS("I'm about solutions, not b!tching and crying. What are you going to DO about it???")

I listen to these dudes throughout the day.

I know @Atom Smasher listens to Jordan Peterson, but who else do you all listen to? I'd love suggestions! Maybe something philosophical, maybe something more practical that tells me to check my email everyday lol.
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Guys I listen to who are alive:
Rich Cooper.
Aaron Clarey
Alex Becker

Guys I listen to or read who are dead:
Alan Watts (long dead, EXCELLENT lectures)
Marcus Aurelius
Nietzche
 

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Robert Greene
Shawn T Smith
Arnold book is great
Freakanomics
Sex at Dawn
How to win friend and influence people
Joe Navaro book on body language

Last book i read Malcom Gladwell Talking to strangers, it was a great book about how we interact with ppl we dont know, lots of good info on human nature.

Those are the one i can think aboutright now but there is many more
 

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Robert Greene
Shawn T Smith
Arnold book is great
Freakanomics
Sex at Dawn
How to win friend and influence people
Joe Navaro book on body language

Last book i read Malcom Gladwell Talking to strangers, it was a great book about how we interact with ppl we dont know, lots of good info on human nature.

Those are the one i can think aboutright now but there is many more
Awesome. Let me know if you think of any others. I read a lot and the books you suggest are always fire
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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@DEEZEDBRAH
im sure you have some good input on this as well
Oh yeah we're always talking about this haha. He gave me a huge list of RSD books as well which was awesome. I was just curious as to what the forum members were reading.

I'm still reading Robert Greene's Art of Seduction lol
 

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Robert Greene is good.

Mastery - by George Leonard.

Psycho-Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz.

How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie.

How I Won Freedom In An Unfree World by Harry Browne.

But most of these books I've read are very repetitive. They're stuffed with anecdotes about how so and so did such and such and look at him now. The exception would be Harry Browne, whose lessons about personal freedom are invaluable. His political views are a little impractical, take them or leave them, but he argues them well.

Don't get too bogged down in the self-help thing. Go out and do.
Yeah I definitely agree with you there. I know that I have enough resources(including this wonderful site) to make it through college and walk that stage.

I have no idea how I'm gonna make it when I'm an "adult adult" though. I suppose the same strategies I use to get through school hold up. That and using the internet.

I'm at a dentist appt, right now, NEVER would've been able to do it without the internet's help(and calling my parents haha.) I feel like it's the only way to adult
 

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You can only know the true face of a man when he hits rock bottom.

Whether he's the son of a tiger or a rabbit.

Go out and experience life by living it instead of downloading it into ur brain.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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