"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Hey guys... Let's talk life for a bit. Not even pickup.

Who are some good people to listen to/read to learn responsibility and succeed at your purpose? Some of the people I've been listening to and reading are pushing me through life and making me not so lost are:
David Goggins(Stay Hard)
Jocko Willink(Discipline will set you free)
Jordan B Peterson(Pick your own damn sacrifice)
RSD Derek("You need to sacrifice your short term emotions for your long term outcome")
AMS("I'm about solutions, not b!tching and crying. What are you going to DO about it???")

I listen to these dudes throughout the day.

I know @Atom Smasher listens to Jordan Peterson, but who else do you all listen to? I'd love suggestions! Maybe something philosophical, maybe something more practical that tells me to check my email everyday lol.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Guys I listen to who are alive:
Rich Cooper.
Aaron Clarey
Alex Becker

Guys I listen to or read who are dead:
Alan Watts (long dead, EXCELLENT lectures)
Marcus Aurelius
Nietzche
 

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Robert Greene
Shawn T Smith
Arnold book is great
Freakanomics
Sex at Dawn
How to win friend and influence people
Joe Navaro book on body language

Last book i read Malcom Gladwell Talking to strangers, it was a great book about how we interact with ppl we dont know, lots of good info on human nature.

Those are the one i can think aboutright now but there is many more
 

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Robert Greene
Shawn T Smith
Arnold book is great
Freakanomics
Sex at Dawn
How to win friend and influence people
Joe Navaro book on body language

Last book i read Malcom Gladwell Talking to strangers, it was a great book about how we interact with ppl we dont know, lots of good info on human nature.

Those are the one i can think aboutright now but there is many more
Awesome. Let me know if you think of any others. I read a lot and the books you suggest are always fire
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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@DEEZEDBRAH
im sure you have some good input on this as well
Oh yeah we're always talking about this haha. He gave me a huge list of RSD books as well which was awesome. I was just curious as to what the forum members were reading.

I'm still reading Robert Greene's Art of Seduction lol
 

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Robert Greene is good.

Mastery - by George Leonard.

Psycho-Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz.

How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie.

How I Won Freedom In An Unfree World by Harry Browne.

But most of these books I've read are very repetitive. They're stuffed with anecdotes about how so and so did such and such and look at him now. The exception would be Harry Browne, whose lessons about personal freedom are invaluable. His political views are a little impractical, take them or leave them, but he argues them well.

Don't get too bogged down in the self-help thing. Go out and do.
Yeah I definitely agree with you there. I know that I have enough resources(including this wonderful site) to make it through college and walk that stage.

I have no idea how I'm gonna make it when I'm an "adult adult" though. I suppose the same strategies I use to get through school hold up. That and using the internet.

I'm at a dentist appt, right now, NEVER would've been able to do it without the internet's help(and calling my parents haha.) I feel like it's the only way to adult
 

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You can only know the true face of a man when he hits rock bottom.

Whether he's the son of a tiger or a rabbit.

Go out and experience life by living it instead of downloading it into ur brain.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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