Gen Z and Sarcasm

[Plinco]

Is it me or are they full of $h!tty sarcasm?

 

[Bokanovsky]

I’ve noticed that many women put “fluent in sarcasm” in their dating profiles. That’s her way of saying that she’s an insufferable tw@t. Instant left swipe.

 

[HaleyBaron]

It's just passive aggressiveness. I dont like it either.

 

[SW15]

I don't know if this is a Gen Z thing. Millennials have done the whole sarcasm and "fluent in sarcasm" thing. Gen Z is still quite young (1997-2012), with the oldest members turning 24 in 2021. The younger part of Gen Z hasn't even reached adulthood.

 

[oOh Nasty]

One thing I’ve noticed, with all respect to my US cousins, is that Americans talk far more literarily than we do.

I note that online, if I make a sarcastic or ironic comment, Americans take it literally. Eg if there’s a thread about say, lane hoggers and I say “lane hoggers should be executed”, in Britain I don’t need to add a smiley . US comments tend to put “I think that’s too extreme” I then explain that I’m being sarcastic/flippant and they say “well you should add a smiley, how am I supposed to know”

this isn’t a value judgement, it’s just an observation than British folks are much more into dark humour/dry wit/subtlety. You can see this in the US office V UK. The US is more about obvious gags, the UK is about painful cringe comedy.

on the other side, we have terrible teeth and speech laws. I’m not having a go.

You have the set of Americans who are too stupid to realize sarcasm so they answer seriously to sarcastic statements or questions. And then you have snowflakes who are sarcastic and passive aggressive about everything to everyone until they find someone who agrees with them and then they love them. These low-T internet nerds having a channel and means of banding together on the internet is a pandemic.

 

[bat soup]

I’ve noticed that many women put “fluent in sarcasm” in their dating profiles. That’s her way of saying that she’s an insufferable tw@t. Instant left swipe.

If they write anything at all, it's almost always something ugly and negative. If I see too much text I just assume it´s something stupid and swipe left.

 

[Zimbabwe]

Is it me or are they full of $h!tty sarcasm?

I'm part of Gen Z and I can say yes, not just for women but men. Our memes are often post irony/sarcastic so it's the only type of humour we have.

 

[Mike32ct]

One thing I’ve noticed, with all respect to my US cousins, is that Americans talk far more literarily than we do.

I note that online, if I make a sarcastic or ironic comment, Americans take it literally. Eg if there’s a thread about say, lane hoggers and I say “lane hoggers should be executed”, in Britain I don’t need to add a smiley . US comments tend to put “I think that’s too extreme” I then explain that I’m being sarcastic/flippant and they say “well you should add a smiley, how am I supposed to know”

this isn’t a value judgement, it’s just an observation than British folks are much more into dark humour/dry wit/subtlety. You can see this in the US office V UK. The US is more about obvious gags, the UK is about painful cringe comedy.

Agreed. And I don’t think Americans banter as much as Brits do.

 

[TheCharmingGuy]

I’ve noticed that many women put “fluent in sarcasm” in their dating profiles. That’s her way of saying that she’s an insufferable tw@t. Instant left swipe.

It’s the same as the ones with mugs that say “man tears”.

 

[inquisitor]

They have no personality and self-principles, so it is easier for them to just speak in cliches. Whatever sounds hip and cool. Indicative of a thoughtless bio, a lame implication that she is "interesting".

 

[mrskinnypantz]

Yeah, Next.
I don’t got time for all that sassy slick shxt , she can go play those “I am woman hear me roar” games with somebody less experienced. When she gets around a certain dude all that disrespectful **** go out the window,truss.

 

[B80]

we have tons of stupid people too. I’ve actually found your average American has a better vocabulary than your average Brit.
Other than that the main difference is religion, Americans are deeply religious compared to us, who are almost universally atheist. Saying you’re religious is something to be ashamed of here and people will tend to think you’re dim.
Other difference is Americans are WAY nicer and more friendly and supportive. We are tons more cynical. We don’t like to see others succeed but Americans are full of “GO YOU!!!”
Ironic also that the US seems much more violent and confrontational, yet people are friendlier. It’s almost like under the surface there’s violence but a very smiley surface.

Yes, I'm a 'Brit' and noticed over the years the average American (I work for US company so encounter a fair few) seem to have a much better grasp of the language on average and seem pretty confident, switched on in general, compared to British peers. Men seem more masculine too,compared to us, but that may be more to do with company/industry in in. Funny as many Brits hold parrot stereotypes about Americans being dumb, insular etc, but that hasn;t been my real world experience, in the main. British people more likely to save face, reserved, skirt around issues, where Americans more direct about things.

Theres also a steroytype that Americans encourage success, winners, whereas the UK are the opposite and like to tear people down rather than praise them.

 

[Bokanovsky]

we have tons of stupid people too. I’ve actually found your average American has a better vocabulary than your average Brit.
Other than that the main difference is religion, Americans are deeply religious compared to us, who are almost universally atheist. Saying you’re religious is something to be ashamed of here and people will tend to think you’re dim.
Other difference is Americans are WAY nicer and more friendly and supportive. We are tons more cynical. We don’t like to see others succeed but Americans are full of “GO YOU!!!”
Ironic also that the US seems much more violent and confrontational, yet people are friendlier. It’s almost like under the surface there’s violence but a very smiley surface.

Americans, by and large, are not violent. The vast majority of violent crime is committed by ethnic gangs. Go to any middle class American neighbourhood and you will feel safer than if you were walking the streets of London.

 

[Bokanovsky]

it’s the owning a gun thing.

Don't buy into the anti-gun propaganda. I've travelled extensively in parts of the US where gun ownership is widespread and not once have I felt like someone was going to shoot me for no reason.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Im not in any way saying that people go around shooting people.

im saying that self defence, operation of firearms and resolving armed conflicts appears to be a hobby for a lot of Americans.

If you had lived in a country with no ownership, you’d understand how odd this is. Firearms are a military item here, not a domestic one or a recreational activity. Hence it appears from afar to be a bit weird to have basic military training for a lot of what are essentially civilians

The UK used to be a lot like the U.S. when it comes to gun ownership. 100 years go, it was not uncommon for a gentleman in London to carry a revolver. Those rights were slowly taken away from you (along with many other rights, such as freedom of speech), so I can see why the relative freedom that still exists in part of the U.S. may seem "weird". But in reality, it's the UK and the EU that have become weird.

 

[bat soup]

it’s the owning a gun thing.

another example: go on any YouTube video where there is a conflict and you will see TONS of US commenters saying things like:

“as soon as his hands went to his pockets I would have drawn my weapon/ran etc”

“Never turn your back on a stranger. Always face them”

“that dude was sticking his jaw out in range”

“As soon as that guy took a step forward I would have reached for my gun”

or the immortal: “best advert for concealed carry I’ve seen” (this is usually a video where a fight would have turned into multiple murders had someone drAwn a gun”

there is a kind of semi military self defence dynamic which seems to be very prevalent in the states. These kind of comments just wouldn’t be made by British people, general self defence is completely unnecessary.

perhaps the reason it gives this impression is because the violent guys are commenting and the normal folks aren’t on these videos

There are places in the US that are scary as hell and places that feel very safe. Same in the UK. Sometimes people from the US assume Europe is safer because there are less guns, but that's where the knives come in.

 

[HaleyBaron]

how many first world democracies allow private firearm use for self defence?

None. America is the only place that does, and it's probably why we are also the least cucked by our government [though that is slowly changing]. Having guns is the one line drawn in the sand between citizen and government.

 

[bat soup]

The UK used to be a lot like the U.S. when it comes to gun ownership. 100 years go, it was not uncommon for a gentleman in London to carry a revolver. Those rights were slowly taken away from you (along with many other rights, such as freedom of speech), so I can see why the relative freedom that still exists in part of the U.S. may seem "weird". But in reality, it's the UK and the EU that have become weird.

My dad had a gun and I used to shoot at school (we had a shooting club with rifles). I think it's still possible to use guns for recreation if you want, but it's not a common hobby. In the past that you talk about it maybe "gentlemen" (i.e. rich men) did have guns, but I doubt the average person could afford one. So I don't think there was ever a situation where the average guy in the street was likely to be carrying a gun. That was never the case. And I think the tradition in the US comes from the country's history of camping out in the wilderness and conquering new territory full of bears, indians and bandits. A gun was necessary to survive in those situations.

 

[HaleyBaron]

My dad had a gun and I used to shoot at school (we had a shooting club with rifles). I think it's still possible to use guns for recreation if you want, but it's not a common hobby. In the past that you talk about it maybe "gentlemen" (i.e. rich men) did have guns, but I doubt the average person could afford one. So I don't think there was ever a situation where the average guy in the street was likely to be carrying a gun. That was never the case. And I think the tradition in the US comes from the country's history of camping out in the wilderness and conquering new territory full of bears, indians and bandits. A gun was necessary to survive in those situations.

It was more than that. We also had our guns to use against the government whenever it was trying to take over towns and cities [yes, even the US government can be invaders and terrorists].

 

[Bokanovsky]

how many first world democracies allow private firearm use for self defence?

Several countries that you wouldn't necessarily associate with gun ownership or violence do (i.e. Switzerland, Czech Republic, Monaco, Lithuania, among others). Are you trying to suggest that gun ownership is somehow incompatible with democracy? How so?