Good, continue with the NC option until she gets her head right…
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Friendzoned me after we already banged, saying she doesn't want to get emotionally attached to me because her ex is in her life
- Thread starter Abethatguy
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
BURT MCQUEEN
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Ok dude ,you're not spinning plates, Did you read the theory or not, otherwise you wouldn't ask? It looks to me that you're applying a some kind of varation of the sniper mentality.
What should you do? DAte others girls, apply plates theory, NEXT, this plate dropped when she stopped fvcking with you.
And if you ever meet her, because you have friends in common right, act like she doesn't exist, like she's lesser than you, avoid contacts with her. Because you were one of the meny orbiters, she liked your attention anyway.
Abethatguy
Don Juan
She told me that from the beginning, she could only see us as being either great friends, or dating.
There’s no in between with her.
Either it’s emotionless ****ing, or dating with someone she’s attracted to
Abethatguy
Don Juan
I am spinning plates, I have 2 other girls that I’m seeing/****ing, and she knows about one of them actually.
BURT MCQUEEN
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So what's the problem, she's a HB10? keep spining and add plates. Are you seeking revenge? When she's with you friends show her one of your plates
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Abethatguy
Don Juan
She’s a HB7 at best tbh, just not trying to get friend zoned by a girl all my friends know honestly
BURT MCQUEEN
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So you seek revenge right? You can simply stop being her friend, i told you what to do. Friendships get broken
Abethatguy
Don Juan
I never agreed to her friendship anyway, I just let her talk and then she went home
lamath
Master Don Juan
Only thing you can do, and only chance you got.
Nc is for yourself not to get her back.
Respect yourself man NEXT!!!
Lack of abundance is killing you atm
Abethatguy
Don Juan
Well yeah I’m doing it primarily for myself, getting p**** wouldn’t be so bad either tho
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
You do realize you don’t HAVE to stay in the friend zone Don’t you? She can put you there for various reasons but only YOU can choose to remain there. I’m of the mindset that I will not be friends with any women I’m attracted to. Never. Call me a sexist, masogonist, whatever but fvck that nonsense. Had a bad experience doing the friend zone twice before when I was young and it scarred me for life on befriending women.
Abethatguy
Don Juan
She’s attracted to me, and we ****ed in the past, so what do I do? When she tries to be flirty or dump her emotions do I just tell her to **** off ?
You don’t have to tell her anything, you simply ignore her. You don’t respond to texts, you don’t answer or return calls, you don’t respond to any communication from her UNLESS she comes right out and says “Abe, I’ve been thinking, I want to date you and only you”.
Abethatguy
Don Juan
isn't that just gonna make me seem like a salty little phaggot?
You’re busy with other things, events, and people, the specifics of which are not her business. When she comes to you for romance, you have time for her.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Abethatguy
Don Juan
Thanks dudes, y’all gave me harsh criticism and real advice, I’m gonna grow some balls and deal with this like a DJ should
Nope. It’ll make you seem like you’ve moved on to other girls that want to date you and aren’t hung up on their ex. Or you can stick with this girl and be viewed as a beta cuck orbiter emotional tampon. I’m sure she has plenty of those, she doesn’t need to add you.
When I came along the internet was just getting started, there wasn’t texting or cell phones. The friend zone you had to LEARN the hard way because there was no way to google it or ask other people and hear similar stories. There’s no reason a woman should friend zone you these days, too much info out there. The girl that friend zoned me when we were 15, I still see her from time to time and she stares at me but I give her not one second of my time or even look her direction. She knows what she did and it still eats at her all these years later.
Abethatguy
Don Juan
Heard you loud and clear
DEEZEDBRAH
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.