"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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friendzone escape.. again.

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Okay guys, so you may have read a few weeks ago that I had broken out of the friendzone with this girl I know on a FWB level. Perfect by me! Girl is probably a 9 in my book.

So this weekend I'm gonna go for it again, with a different girl. She shows a lot of interest in me, is always flirting with me, and has tried to kiss me numerous times (during these times I had been with other girls and did not want to fvck up) There are just a few concerns on my mind at the moment about it.

1.) This girl, and the girl i had previously hooked up with are friends. Don't wanna make things complicated.. (Although they might get better :cool: )
2.) She is a little bit crazy
3.) She had done the same thing to one of my other friends, then when he went for it, she acted as if he had raped her.

I will report back with the outcome when the event takes place. Wish me luck guys!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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i dont really like number 3 very much but dont see any other problems, friendzone is something of a myth anyway imo (or at least its just self inflicted)
 

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mahoney said:
i dont really like number 3 very much but dont see any other problems, friendzone is something of a myth anyway imo (or at least its just self inflicted)
That is true, the number 3 might be a little bit of trouble. But I feel like my friend may have come on too strong. He tends to do that sometimes.
 

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That sounds like a big risk, if she did that to your bud then she'll probably do it to you.

If I were you, I'd **** the other girl real good some more and see if she is up for a threesome, but make it look like her idea. Like inception.
 

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number 3 is a bit of concern....

proceed but with caution...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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oh, and let us know what happens :yes:
 

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Alex DeLarge said:
Okay guys, so you may have read a few weeks ago that I had broken out of the friendzone with this girl I know on a FWB level. Perfect by me! Girl is probably a 9 in my book.

So this weekend I'm gonna go for it again, with a different girl. She shows a lot of interest in me, is always flirting with me, and has tried to kiss me numerous times (during these times I had been with other girls and did not want to fvck up) There are just a few concerns on my mind at the moment about it.

1.) This girl, and the girl i had previously hooked up with are friends. Don't wanna make things complicated.. (Although they might get better :cool: )
2.) She is a little bit crazy
3.) She had done the same thing to one of my other friends, then when he went for it, she acted as if he had raped her.

I will report back with the outcome when the event takes place. Wish me luck guys!
How do you know for sure you are out of the friendzone?
 

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Alex DeLarge said:
O She shows a lot of interest in me, is always flirting with me, and has tried to kiss me numerous times
This isn't escaping the friendzone, this is getting with a chick that wants your c0ck...if anything, SHE is escaping the friendzone.
 

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Well guys just reporting back.. And I hooked up with this girl. Not too sure if it's going to go anywhere, but I did it.

We only made out for barely a minute. All of my "friends" at the party were CBing hard by just walking in on us and doing other stupid sh1t. She's a real quiet shy girl too, so once this happened she just wanted to stop and acted all weird.

If she keeps acting weird, I'm not even gonna bother.. Hopefully I can work this situation out!
 
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Alex DeLarge said:
Okay guys, so you may have read a few weeks ago that I had broken out of the friendzone with this girl I know on a FWB level. Perfect by me! Girl is probably a 9 in my book.

So this weekend I'm gonna go for it again, with a different girl. She shows a lot of interest in me, is always flirting with me, and has tried to kiss me numerous times (during these times I had been with other girls and did not want to fvck up) There are just a few concerns on my mind at the moment about it.

1.) This girl, and the girl i had previously hooked up with are friends. Don't wanna make things complicated.. (Although they might get better :cool: )
2.) She is a little bit crazy
3.) She had done the same thing to one of my other friends, then when he went for it, she acted as if he had raped her.

I will report back with the outcome when the event takes place. Wish me luck guys!

You are risking ruin unnecessarily.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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BettorOffSingle said:
You are risking ruin unnecessarily.
How so? Please explain.
 

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ARrocket said:
This isn't escaping the friendzone, this is getting with a chick that wants your c0ck...if anything, SHE is escaping the friendzone.
Exactly, I think the OP is mischaracterizing the friend zone. Friend zone is a place a woman puts you after either basically rejecting you or has otherwise determined you are not a guy she has a sexual interest in. There is no escaping the friend zone, and even if you can or do it is not worth the effort and time it'd take. Heating up a simmering pot so to speak is not escaping the friend zone or proof the friend zone doesn't exist.
 
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