Do you think it's wrong to stop talking to a girl once you've been relegated to the friendship zone by her? I've done this before and have felt guilty. At the same time, I couldn't help how I felt. I would like responses from men and women.
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Friendship Zone Question
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
You haven't been "relegated" you have been forced to accept something that you do not want. If you do not want this then why would you want her friendship?! Just like she rejected your advances because she didn't want this or you anymore, you owe it to yourself to reject her because you do not want to be forced into something you do not like (you want to fvck her and she doesn't want that why settle for mediocrity?? Your attitude should be take it or leave it and not settling for something less then.)
The time you spend with her as a "friend" could be better off dating other women. Women make lousy friends, I have yet to meet a woman that will actually be reliable and be a good friend to you as oppose of the world revolving around her. As soon as she finds a man most women "friends" dissapear without a trace.
When you have been LJBF, she ain't going to be your real friend because your friendship is based on control and limits. You will end up salivating like a poor puppy and kicking yourself when you meet her and her new boyfriend.
I got a simple line that will keep you sane " Befriend Men but Women you Bang".
DjDamage
Reyaj
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DJDamage agree with you all the way.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
i have a question about my experience........it started off with me being myself and her giving me her number.....i really didn't care.......3rd date we cuddled and made out........the next thing.....after about a 7 day break......she just wants to be friends if i want......that we aren't compatible.
so i moved on....cuz i dont give.......it was a little weird but every once in a while....she ims me and talks.
whtas up with that?.....
so i moved on....cuz i dont give.......it was a little weird but every once in a while....she ims me and talks.
whtas up with that?.....
Hound_of_Love
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Most likely she enjoys the attention. There wasn't enough of a spark, or you didn't take her far enough, for anything else.
You said yourself that you didn't care. It seems like she made a pre-emptive break up. She saw that you weren't interested, so she broke up with you before you could break up with her. If you like her, tell her how you feel. Don't hide behind your ego. Sometimes you need to show some emotion.
WesCottII
Master Don Juan
Hmm.... I'm not sure I agree. She says "ljbf" she means it. It's not a test. She doesn't want you. Get her gone, and move on.
Don Juanabbe
Master Don Juan
Yeah, move on. Listen to DJ Damage's advice. You don't need female friends. Unless you are shagging her other friends, she has little use to you.
Also, they invariably cloud your judgement and influence you with their bullsh*t woman ideas.
Also, they invariably cloud your judgement and influence you with their bullsh*t woman ideas.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
WesCottII
Master Don Juan
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
WesCottII
Master Don Juan
As Pook would say:
"I have enough friends thanks." and thats the end of it.
"I have enough friends thanks." and thats the end of it.
Tomatoes
Master Don Juan
Agreed
Don Juanabbe
Master Don Juan
I used to have the problem with the LJBF thing, but I think as you get older you will get wise to this particular trap.
It's pretty simple: view all women as objects of sex and pursue any interactions in that manner from the get go. Avoid being her emotional tampon and you will be fine.
It's pretty simple: view all women as objects of sex and pursue any interactions in that manner from the get go. Avoid being her emotional tampon and you will be fine.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
The Juan and only
Master Don Juan
That's what I'd say.However, Ross Jeffries suggests this:
her: "Lets just be friends"
you: "I don't promise any such thing. Friends don't put each other into boxes like that. The only thing I'll promise is never to do anything unless you and I both feel totally confortable, willing, and ready"
...dunno how effective that would be though...could work I suppose. well...If I really wanted to turn things around then I might try it.
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Personally, I dont, for the most part do the LJBF thing. For the most part, women who do not want to fukk me, who I know personally (mostly from work) we are mere acquaintences, there is no cell number exchange, we do not hang out together UNLESS it is a group setting, and they dont get drinks and food and other favors. There is one woman who I have allowed to have my number, and who I'll bother hanging out with occasionally, because she is a pretty fun woman, and she occasionally has some hott single friends she invites along, and this has proved fruitful in the past. But for example, the other day she needed help moving furniture, and she was told that she needs to get the guys that are sleeping with her to help her move. She has been told in the past to pay her 1/2 of the bar tab. She knows how I am about these things. She seems "ok" with it, but occasionally tells me that I have weird "rules" when it comes to our friendship.
But if a woman I am sexually pursuing tells me "LJBF" or I get this from one who I have been "hittin" then "Game Over" they will not hear from me again.
A woman who IS putting out a$$? She gets doors opened, help with her jacket, she NEVER pays for drinks, and food, and gets lots of other little intangibles along the way. My theory is one hand washes the other.
But if a woman I am sexually pursuing tells me "LJBF" or I get this from one who I have been "hittin" then "Game Over" they will not hear from me again.
A woman who IS putting out a$$? She gets doors opened, help with her jacket, she NEVER pays for drinks, and food, and gets lots of other little intangibles along the way. My theory is one hand washes the other.