“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Friendship Zone Question

Juan_Man

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Do you think it's wrong to stop talking to a girl once you've been relegated to the friendship zone by her? I've done this before and have felt guilty. At the same time, I couldn't help how I felt. I would like responses from men and women.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Be her friend if you want to, friends that are girls can be pretty useful and fun. If you dont, then move onto the next girl. Just do whatever you want.
 

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Originally posted by Juan_Man
Do you think it's wrong to stop talking to a girl once you've been relegated to the friendship zone by her? I've done this before and have felt guilty. At the same time, I couldn't help how I felt. I would like responses from men and women.
You haven't been "relegated" you have been forced to accept something that you do not want. If you do not want this then why would you want her friendship?! Just like she rejected your advances because she didn't want this or you anymore, you owe it to yourself to reject her because you do not want to be forced into something you do not like (you want to fvck her and she doesn't want that why settle for mediocrity?? Your attitude should be take it or leave it and not settling for something less then.)

The time you spend with her as a "friend" could be better off dating other women. Women make lousy friends, I have yet to meet a woman that will actually be reliable and be a good friend to you as oppose of the world revolving around her. As soon as she finds a man most women "friends" dissapear without a trace.

When you have been LJBF, she ain't going to be your real friend because your friendship is based on control and limits. You will end up salivating like a poor puppy and kicking yourself when you meet her and her new boyfriend.

I got a simple line that will keep you sane " Befriend Men but Women you Bang".

DjDamage
 

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Re: Re: Friendship Zone Question

Originally posted by DJDamage
You haven't been "relegated" you have been forced to accept something that you do not want. If you do not want this then why would you want her friendship?! Just like she rejected your advances because she didn't want this or you anymore, you owe it to yourself to reject her because you do not want to be forced into something you do not like (you want to fvck her and she doesn't want that why settle for mediocrity?? Your attitude should be take it or leave it and not settling for something less then.)

The time you spend with her as a "friend" could be better off dating other women. Women make lousy friends, I have yet to meet a woman that will actually be reliable and be a good friend to you as oppose of the world revolving around her. As soon as she finds a man most women "friends" dissapear without a trace.

When you have been LJBF, she ain't going to be your real friend because your friendship is based on control and limits. You will end up salivating like a poor puppy and kicking yourself when you meet her and her new boyfriend.

I got a simple line that will keep you sane " Befriend Men but Women you Bang".

DjDamage
Good point. Just when I start feeling guilty about my past behavior, good sense intervenes.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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i have a question about my experience........it started off with me being myself and her giving me her number.....i really didn't care.......3rd date we cuddled and made out........the next thing.....after about a 7 day break......she just wants to be friends if i want......that we aren't compatible.

so i moved on....cuz i dont give.......it was a little weird but every once in a while....she ims me and talks.

whtas up with that?.....
 

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Originally posted by QuezNozet
whtas up with that?.....
Most likely she enjoys the attention. There wasn't enough of a spark, or you didn't take her far enough, for anything else.
 

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Originally posted by QuezNozet
i have a question about my experience........it started off with me being myself and her giving me her number.....i really didn't care.......3rd date we cuddled and made out........the next thing.....after about a 7 day break......she just wants to be friends if i want......that we aren't compatible.

so i moved on....cuz i dont give.......it was a little weird but every once in a while....she ims me and talks.

whtas up with that?.....
You said yourself that you didn't care. It seems like she made a pre-emptive break up. She saw that you weren't interested, so she broke up with you before you could break up with her. If you like her, tell her how you feel. Don't hide behind your ego. Sometimes you need to show some emotion.
 

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Originally posted by Juan_Man
You said yourself that you didn't care. It seems like she made a pre-emptive break up. She saw that you weren't interested, so she broke up with you before you could break up with her. If you like her, tell her how you feel. Don't hide behind your ego. Sometimes you need to show some emotion.
Hmm.... I'm not sure I agree. She says "ljbf" she means it. It's not a test. She doesn't want you. Get her gone, and move on.
 

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Yeah, move on. Listen to DJ Damage's advice. You don't need female friends. Unless you are shagging her other friends, she has little use to you.

Also, they invariably cloud your judgement and influence you with their bullsh*t woman ideas.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Originally posted by Don Juanabbe


Also, they invariably cloud your judgement and influence you with their bullsh*t woman ideas.
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
 

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I generally agree. However, some women make truly great friend...but the majority do not.

Here it is: Either keep pursuing, leave her alone..or, if you really want her..you can be up front. "I'm not your friend."
 

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As Pook would say:

"I have enough friends thanks." and thats the end of it.
 

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Originally posted by WesCottII
As Pook would say:

"I have enough friends thanks." and thats the end of it.
Agreed
 

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I used to have the problem with the LJBF thing, but I think as you get older you will get wise to this particular trap.

It's pretty simple: view all women as objects of sex and pursue any interactions in that manner from the get go. Avoid being her emotional tampon and you will be fine.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The Juan and only

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Originally posted by WesCottII
As Pook would say:

"I have enough friends thanks." and thats the end of it.
:up: That's what I'd say.

However, Ross Jeffries suggests this:

her: "Lets just be friends"

you: "I don't promise any such thing. Friends don't put each other into boxes like that. The only thing I'll promise is never to do anything unless you and I both feel totally confortable, willing, and ready"



...dunno how effective that would be though...could work I suppose. well...If I really wanted to turn things around then I might try it.
 

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Personally, I dont, for the most part do the LJBF thing. For the most part, women who do not want to fukk me, who I know personally (mostly from work) we are mere acquaintences, there is no cell number exchange, we do not hang out together UNLESS it is a group setting, and they dont get drinks and food and other favors. There is one woman who I have allowed to have my number, and who I'll bother hanging out with occasionally, because she is a pretty fun woman, and she occasionally has some hott single friends she invites along, and this has proved fruitful in the past. But for example, the other day she needed help moving furniture, and she was told that she needs to get the guys that are sleeping with her to help her move. She has been told in the past to pay her 1/2 of the bar tab. She knows how I am about these things. She seems "ok" with it, but occasionally tells me that I have weird "rules" when it comes to our friendship.

But if a woman I am sexually pursuing tells me "LJBF" or I get this from one who I have been "hittin" then "Game Over" they will not hear from me again.

A woman who IS putting out a$$? She gets doors opened, help with her jacket, she NEVER pays for drinks, and food, and gets lots of other little intangibles along the way. My theory is one hand washes the other.
 
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