Do you think it's wrong to stop talking to a girl once you've been relegated to the friendship zone by her? I've done this before and have felt guilty. At the same time, I couldn't help how I felt. I would like responses from men and women.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Friendship Zone Question
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
You haven't been "relegated" you have been forced to accept something that you do not want. If you do not want this then why would you want her friendship?! Just like she rejected your advances because she didn't want this or you anymore, you owe it to yourself to reject her because you do not want to be forced into something you do not like (you want to fvck her and she doesn't want that why settle for mediocrity?? Your attitude should be take it or leave it and not settling for something less then.)
The time you spend with her as a "friend" could be better off dating other women. Women make lousy friends, I have yet to meet a woman that will actually be reliable and be a good friend to you as oppose of the world revolving around her. As soon as she finds a man most women "friends" dissapear without a trace.
When you have been LJBF, she ain't going to be your real friend because your friendship is based on control and limits. You will end up salivating like a poor puppy and kicking yourself when you meet her and her new boyfriend.
I got a simple line that will keep you sane " Befriend Men but Women you Bang".
DjDamage
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
DJDamage agree with you all the way.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
i have a question about my experience........it started off with me being myself and her giving me her number.....i really didn't care.......3rd date we cuddled and made out........the next thing.....after about a 7 day break......she just wants to be friends if i want......that we aren't compatible.
so i moved on....cuz i dont give.......it was a little weird but every once in a while....she ims me and talks.
whtas up with that?.....
so i moved on....cuz i dont give.......it was a little weird but every once in a while....she ims me and talks.
whtas up with that?.....
Hound_of_Love
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Most likely she enjoys the attention. There wasn't enough of a spark, or you didn't take her far enough, for anything else.
You said yourself that you didn't care. It seems like she made a pre-emptive break up. She saw that you weren't interested, so she broke up with you before you could break up with her. If you like her, tell her how you feel. Don't hide behind your ego. Sometimes you need to show some emotion.
WesCottII
Master Don Juan
Hmm.... I'm not sure I agree. She says "ljbf" she means it. It's not a test. She doesn't want you. Get her gone, and move on.
Don Juanabbe
Master Don Juan
Yeah, move on. Listen to DJ Damage's advice. You don't need female friends. Unless you are shagging her other friends, she has little use to you.
Also, they invariably cloud your judgement and influence you with their bullsh*t woman ideas.
Also, they invariably cloud your judgement and influence you with their bullsh*t woman ideas.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
WesCottII
Master Don Juan
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
WesCottII
Master Don Juan
As Pook would say:
"I have enough friends thanks." and thats the end of it.
"I have enough friends thanks." and thats the end of it.
Tomatoes
Master Don Juan
Agreed
Don Juanabbe
Master Don Juan
I used to have the problem with the LJBF thing, but I think as you get older you will get wise to this particular trap.
It's pretty simple: view all women as objects of sex and pursue any interactions in that manner from the get go. Avoid being her emotional tampon and you will be fine.
It's pretty simple: view all women as objects of sex and pursue any interactions in that manner from the get go. Avoid being her emotional tampon and you will be fine.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
The Juan and only
Master Don Juan
That's what I'd say.However, Ross Jeffries suggests this:
her: "Lets just be friends"
you: "I don't promise any such thing. Friends don't put each other into boxes like that. The only thing I'll promise is never to do anything unless you and I both feel totally confortable, willing, and ready"
...dunno how effective that would be though...could work I suppose. well...If I really wanted to turn things around then I might try it.
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Personally, I dont, for the most part do the LJBF thing. For the most part, women who do not want to fukk me, who I know personally (mostly from work) we are mere acquaintences, there is no cell number exchange, we do not hang out together UNLESS it is a group setting, and they dont get drinks and food and other favors. There is one woman who I have allowed to have my number, and who I'll bother hanging out with occasionally, because she is a pretty fun woman, and she occasionally has some hott single friends she invites along, and this has proved fruitful in the past. But for example, the other day she needed help moving furniture, and she was told that she needs to get the guys that are sleeping with her to help her move. She has been told in the past to pay her 1/2 of the bar tab. She knows how I am about these things. She seems "ok" with it, but occasionally tells me that I have weird "rules" when it comes to our friendship.
But if a woman I am sexually pursuing tells me "LJBF" or I get this from one who I have been "hittin" then "Game Over" they will not hear from me again.
A woman who IS putting out a$$? She gets doors opened, help with her jacket, she NEVER pays for drinks, and food, and gets lots of other little intangibles along the way. My theory is one hand washes the other.
But if a woman I am sexually pursuing tells me "LJBF" or I get this from one who I have been "hittin" then "Game Over" they will not hear from me again.
A woman who IS putting out a$$? She gets doors opened, help with her jacket, she NEVER pays for drinks, and food, and gets lots of other little intangibles along the way. My theory is one hand washes the other.