"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Friendship after sex.. possible?

El' Waynos

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We were seeing each other, no she just wants to be friends.. no sex etc

whats the deal, will it work?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Hang out once, try to ride the ***** train again. If you can't get anything out of her. Then all you will be is a shoulder to lean on when shes upset and that's it!
 

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It can....But 99% of the time it wont. Depends how involved you were. If she was a FB. Yeah just friends work. If she was a full on LTR.....it will just be problematic. Have seen it work but my advice would be to give it a short try but not hold your breath when things get twichy. Then get her out your life.
 

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Like Tomatoes said, an FB will work much better since no emotions were involved. I'm friends with two girls I fvcked and they both are pursung other guys. We still talk and joke about the past and it's easy because I didn't make the sex a big deal.
 

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Best test.....Imagine she is getting shagged by another bloke....does that make you uneasy? If so it prob wont work being friends.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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girlsarecrazy

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Tomatoes said:
Best test.....Imagine she is getting shagged by another bloke....does that make you uneasy? If so it prob wont work being friends.
Exactly. Try and turn it around to an exclusive relationship or fvck another girl first before becoming friends again with this girl.
 

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If you are asking the question - then you are too interested in her - so probably not.
 

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It could definately work for her but women are different.

As discussed in a previous thread I'm in a similar siuation to you. What I'm doing is never acknowleging that we a just friends.

I spoon feed my attention to her and make sure that when ever we hang out it is one on one. I try to give her as little attention as possible though.

At the same time I date other women. I'm not actively close friends with her but not actively dating either. I'm just keeping her as a side project that I work on slowly.

I'm trying to win her back but I'm finding that it is a much harder process the second time around as she really has to see me in a new or fresh light to get out of that friend zone.

I think it can be done and someone on this board must have done it before but it is definately a long slow process. good luck.

I recommend not thinking about her though if you can win her back all good but I think it is a small chance.
 

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Why would you want to have her as a friend? So you can see some E! show, and learn more and more about your favorite celebrities? Or how about exchanging cooking recipes. Or talking about both of your romantic interests! Sounds like fun!!!
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Tomatoes said:
Best test.....Imagine she is getting shagged by another bloke....does that make you uneasy? If so it prob wont work being friends.

Exactly.
 

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I guess, but I just think if I hang around as a friend there will be a time when I will get some sex again, she cant resist me and she knows it... she always comments that im "smooth" (thanks to sosuave)
 
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