You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
(after having a good conversation)hopelessguy said:lol i dont know how to make a girl as me for my number in a regular pick up, how do i do it here?
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
when you ask her for a drink/date/wherever, if she gave out her NO. to you and didnt see you like that , shell say no, so again you dont waste time...Black Dog said:(after having a good conversation) and making her laugh, etc,etc, IOI's from her...
"Hey this was a good talk! Too bad we don't see each other every day.."
confidently say (and smile) "What's your number" (unless she's retarded she will understand the implications, )
whats the worst that will happen , you get rejected, NEXT!
What goes on in a meeting should stay at a meeting. However, use the meeting as a way to DHV. Offer something important or witty, but don't overdue it. So do your homework, and be prepared for this "important" meeting. When you have the opportunity AFTER the meeting, then take her aside and have a talk. Hit on something she did during the meeting, or whatever (the conversation part takes practice so you need to do this for at least practice). You don't even have to get her number then, just make your presence known and offer something that is interesting in your talk. Don't fvck this part up by not doing this, or you'll regret, or even maybe too late.hopelessguy said:Friend is introducing me to girl i like. how do i handle the sitch? i cant do a number close because itll be during a meeting theyre holding for a project theyre doing, but i need to do something to make sure i can pull this chick to the side later and get her digits. halp!
LoL...i just got on this board a couple days ago, but I only sift through threads that seem interesting to me (hence, title is important) since there is a lot going on in the Don Juan Discussion chapter. I'm mainly more prevalent in the Mature Forum. What is your thread? I'll take a look at it and give you my opinion.YT827 said:Why the **** does every thread but mine gets attention?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.