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I do agree a male friends motives are often suspect. But I feel OP did a good job in explaining himself.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Cool.chevelle said:No worries Latinoman, i actually enjoyed getting to know this girl. It was well worth my time, she was a cool chic to know--just not girlfriend worthy. Perhaps it was wasted time to some, but no sense in me living in the past. The past is gone forever and i can't change it!
i think you want to nail the **** out of her like these other guys do. if you have a serious gf as you say you do...why are on here posting and replying and replying about a different girl you used to **** back in the day.Latinoman said:Exactly.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Exactly.drmeathead said:i think you want to nail the **** out of her like these other guys do. if you have a serious gf as you say you do...why are on here posting and replying and replying about a different girl you used to **** back in the day.
i am pretty sure if your friend bob from college didnt show up for something you wouldnt be lamenting in posts on a ladysman forum. man, you need to be real with yourself here. i dont know you and am not judging you but if you want to truely be happy you have ask yourself some questions.
do you still have feelings for this friend
are you happy with ur current gf or are you settling...really
are you doing your current gf right by overanalyzing the actions of this former sexual partner
I have to say this is something to consider.drmeathead said:i think you want to nail the **** out of her like these other guys do. if you have a serious gf as you say you do...why are on here posting and replying and replying about a different girl you used to **** back in the day.
i am pretty sure if your friend bob from college didnt show up for something you wouldnt be lamenting in posts on a ladysman forum. man, you need to be real with yourself here. i dont know you and am not judging you but if you want to truely be happy you have ask yourself some questions.
do you still have feelings for this friend
are you happy with ur current gf or are you settling...really
are you doing your current gf right by overanalyzing the actions of this former sexual partner
This is where the thread should have ended. You realize she doesn't offer anything.PhatE1vis said:I'm definitely the giver here. No doubt about it. And actually, that really helps put this in perspective...I'm not really losing much.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Elvis-PhatE1vis said:If my friend Bob from college, borrowing your analogy, didn't show up for something we planned I would at least expect him to call and cancel. That's what friends do.
And this wasn't "spending the holidays with her"...this was a quick brunch.
HAHAHAHA!PhatE1vis said:I'm wondering if she didn't consider this a friendship like I did but something else, and when she got the new b/f it didn't seem appropriate to her anymore. If that's the case, then I guess I can understand, but common courtesy is still required.
I just care. If I didn't care about you or some of the posters...I would have ignored your posts long time ago. But my style is "tough love". It allows you to think (even if you get upset) from the "outsider" perspective. And it is ALWAYS up to you to choose the direction you want to take.PhatE1vis said:Latinoman, I changed my mind about you. You do seem like a d!ck, but I can tell you're just keepin it real. Props.
You don't really have to restate anything. Just point out the obvious...clarify some points...and debate the points.PhatE1vis said:Thanks, STR8UP. I feel like I have to keep restating my position about this chick in this thread, which just makes me sound defensive and unbelieveable. That being said, I did get some good food for thought in the responses.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
PhatE1vis said:I have a friend, a girl, who recently flaked on me. We had plans to do something over the holidays - the day came and went, I gave her a call that day and texted the next, and never heard from her.
The backstory: we've been friends for about 3 years. We started as friends, went through a very brief period where we hooked up, and then went back to being friends. I have a gf and she just got a new bf. Also, we don't run in the same circles so it's unlikely that I'll see her out anywhere.
I know she's not dead through other sources. Seems a shame to lose someone I was close to most likely because she has a new bf now, but that may just be the way it is. Is there any recourse left here, or do I just chalk up my loses?
I agree with this and I find it reasonable.##17 said:She probably flaked on you because of the boyfriend, which was the right thing to do.
However, I am a big fan of keeping my word. I personally think that she owed you at least a text that the plans were off.
OK, so let me ask you this. In your opinion, is it ever OK to be friends with a chick you had something more with at one time without being, as you say, AFC? I guess I'm too sentimental...once I've felt something for someone, I have a hard time just chucking them, esp if it didn't end on bad terms. The sex thing I had with this chick was fun while it lasted, but she wanted more of a relationship at the time than I did, so I ended the sex part of it for my mental health.Latinoman said:HAHAHAHA!
You just want us to tell you that she has the hots for you.
Here is my answer...no...she does NOT have the hots for you. But you certainly have the hots for her.
Friend? Yeah right...VERY AFC maneuver, I might ask.
True, most likely I wouldn't have written the thread if it was a male friend, although I still would have been pissed. I think the fact that she's a female made it more of an ego shot for me. That STILL doesn't mean I want to nail her, but I will admit that my feelings were hurt. And rather than contact her to vent and lose all pride, I'm venting here.##17 said:I'm also wondering if she is really just a friend to you. You wouldn't have written this thread if a MALE friend bailed on you instead, would you?
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.