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I do agree a male friends motives are often suspect. But I feel OP did a good job in explaining himself.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Cool.chevelle said:No worries Latinoman, i actually enjoyed getting to know this girl. It was well worth my time, she was a cool chic to know--just not girlfriend worthy. Perhaps it was wasted time to some, but no sense in me living in the past. The past is gone forever and i can't change it!
i think you want to nail the **** out of her like these other guys do. if you have a serious gf as you say you do...why are on here posting and replying and replying about a different girl you used to **** back in the day.Latinoman said:Exactly.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Exactly.drmeathead said:i think you want to nail the **** out of her like these other guys do. if you have a serious gf as you say you do...why are on here posting and replying and replying about a different girl you used to **** back in the day.
i am pretty sure if your friend bob from college didnt show up for something you wouldnt be lamenting in posts on a ladysman forum. man, you need to be real with yourself here. i dont know you and am not judging you but if you want to truely be happy you have ask yourself some questions.
do you still have feelings for this friend
are you happy with ur current gf or are you settling...really
are you doing your current gf right by overanalyzing the actions of this former sexual partner
I have to say this is something to consider.drmeathead said:i think you want to nail the **** out of her like these other guys do. if you have a serious gf as you say you do...why are on here posting and replying and replying about a different girl you used to **** back in the day.
i am pretty sure if your friend bob from college didnt show up for something you wouldnt be lamenting in posts on a ladysman forum. man, you need to be real with yourself here. i dont know you and am not judging you but if you want to truely be happy you have ask yourself some questions.
do you still have feelings for this friend
are you happy with ur current gf or are you settling...really
are you doing your current gf right by overanalyzing the actions of this former sexual partner
This is where the thread should have ended. You realize she doesn't offer anything.PhatE1vis said:I'm definitely the giver here. No doubt about it. And actually, that really helps put this in perspective...I'm not really losing much.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Elvis-PhatE1vis said:If my friend Bob from college, borrowing your analogy, didn't show up for something we planned I would at least expect him to call and cancel. That's what friends do.
And this wasn't "spending the holidays with her"...this was a quick brunch.
HAHAHAHA!PhatE1vis said:I'm wondering if she didn't consider this a friendship like I did but something else, and when she got the new b/f it didn't seem appropriate to her anymore. If that's the case, then I guess I can understand, but common courtesy is still required.
I just care. If I didn't care about you or some of the posters...I would have ignored your posts long time ago. But my style is "tough love". It allows you to think (even if you get upset) from the "outsider" perspective. And it is ALWAYS up to you to choose the direction you want to take.PhatE1vis said:Latinoman, I changed my mind about you. You do seem like a d!ck, but I can tell you're just keepin it real. Props.
You don't really have to restate anything. Just point out the obvious...clarify some points...and debate the points.PhatE1vis said:Thanks, STR8UP. I feel like I have to keep restating my position about this chick in this thread, which just makes me sound defensive and unbelieveable. That being said, I did get some good food for thought in the responses.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
PhatE1vis said:I have a friend, a girl, who recently flaked on me. We had plans to do something over the holidays - the day came and went, I gave her a call that day and texted the next, and never heard from her.
The backstory: we've been friends for about 3 years. We started as friends, went through a very brief period where we hooked up, and then went back to being friends. I have a gf and she just got a new bf. Also, we don't run in the same circles so it's unlikely that I'll see her out anywhere.
I know she's not dead through other sources. Seems a shame to lose someone I was close to most likely because she has a new bf now, but that may just be the way it is. Is there any recourse left here, or do I just chalk up my loses?
I agree with this and I find it reasonable.##17 said:She probably flaked on you because of the boyfriend, which was the right thing to do.
However, I am a big fan of keeping my word. I personally think that she owed you at least a text that the plans were off.
OK, so let me ask you this. In your opinion, is it ever OK to be friends with a chick you had something more with at one time without being, as you say, AFC? I guess I'm too sentimental...once I've felt something for someone, I have a hard time just chucking them, esp if it didn't end on bad terms. The sex thing I had with this chick was fun while it lasted, but she wanted more of a relationship at the time than I did, so I ended the sex part of it for my mental health.Latinoman said:HAHAHAHA!
You just want us to tell you that she has the hots for you.
Here is my answer...no...she does NOT have the hots for you. But you certainly have the hots for her.
Friend? Yeah right...VERY AFC maneuver, I might ask.
True, most likely I wouldn't have written the thread if it was a male friend, although I still would have been pissed. I think the fact that she's a female made it more of an ego shot for me. That STILL doesn't mean I want to nail her, but I will admit that my feelings were hurt. And rather than contact her to vent and lose all pride, I'm venting here.##17 said:I'm also wondering if she is really just a friend to you. You wouldn't have written this thread if a MALE friend bailed on you instead, would you?
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.