Fr? Keep your mind on the grind and result will follow

[Divorced w 3]

Reading comprehension.

I asked you to give me a scenario where confidence will equate to a woman being physically/sexually attracted to a man.

Keywords: Physically/sexually.



How will a woman know if man is confident, in order for her to be attracted to him?

Please answer the question, because you guys are sounding like a bunch of damn fools....as if confident guys have captions above their heads that say, "Hey, ladies. I am confident. Please approach me".

And if a man is so damn confident, then that confidence should spring him into action (cold approaching)...which is precisely what OP is suggesting you shouldn't do.



What??



Yeah, I also like women who are able to take care of things and can handle their life.

But none of that shiit mean anything if I'm not physically/sexually attracted to her!!

Men who are self confident say and do things, usually in the risk taking / personally expressive way, that is attractive. Men who aren’t self confident mope, and don’t look attractive.

 

[Sega Genesis]

when I have a gf suddenly I get tons of game. When I am single women won't touch me with a ten foot pole".
Energy. Confidence. Being comfortable in one's own skin ect ect

Exactly @Gamisch and as you yourself said earlier (and I agreed) women can smell this stuff on a man.

Sexual/physical attraction is NOT always just about physical appearance - for women.

Most anyway there are exceptions.

Women are not like men, we can't just look at a guy and get a boner. For one thing women don't have d*cks and secondly that's not how attraction works for most women.

Physical appearance is part of it but there's so much more.

Not sure why people (some) underestimate a man's energy/vibe - a man's energy (how he walks, talks, carries himself, presents himself (his presence) all contribute to his energy (including sexual) among other things.

Again women can smell it on a man even from a distance.

So yeah, often times a woman will know she is sexually attracted before you even approach just by observing him (his energy/vibe).

It's not just about how physically hot (or tall lol) he is.

Women are NOT men, we are wired differently and as such respond to different things.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Men who are self confident say and do things, usually in the risk taking / personally expressive way, that is attractive.

Say and do things like WHAT?

I'm asking for specifics, and all you guys are giving me is generalities.

Men who aren’t self confident mope, and don’t look attractive.

Again, how does self confidence translate to physical/sexual attractiveness?

Or are you gonna not answer the question, just like the other two chaps didn't.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Say and do things like WHAT?

I'm asking for specifics, and all you guys are giving me is generalities.



Again, how does self confidence translate to physical/sexual attractiveness?

Or are you gonna not answer the question, just like the other two chaps didn't.

Ugh. You win. I’m not doing this

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Wrong.

Many women slept with a dude due to his confidence, demeanour, mouthpiece, charm, character, charisma ect. Even if he is NORMALLY wouldn't ever be her type. Even if he's ftmat, old ,balding, beer belly broke, ect

Yeah, show me an old, balding, broke, beer belly dude that can overcome those odds and sleep with women of his choice based on his confidence and all of that shiit you mentioned.

One of the best examples that even the blue pilled beta man will understand is this:

" when I have a gf suddenly I get tons of game. When I am single women won't touch me with a ten foot pole".
Energy. Confidence. Being comfortable in one's own skin ect ect

So, how did he get the girlfriend in the first place, if, according to you, no women would touch him with a 10 foot pole due to his lack of confidence?

Yet, he still got the girl.

Hmm.

At the end of the day cold approach is nothing bit a tool, but it's never the ONLY way to get women as I proof in this thread.

It's the best way.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Ugh. You win. I’m not doing this

Yeah, sit this one out, lil fella.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Exactly @Gamisch and as you yourself said earlier (and I agreed) women can smell this stuff on a man.

No, they can't.

Sexual/physical attraction is NOT always just about physical appearance - for women.

Most anyway there are exceptions.

Women are not like men, we can't just look at a guy and get a boner. For one thing women don't have d*cks and secondly that's not how attraction works for most women.

Physical appearance is part of it but there's so much more.

If the dude is fat and ugly, there is no amount of confidence or charisma that will get him in your puzzy.

We both know this, so stop it.

Not sure why people (some) underestimate a man's energy/vibe - a man's energy (how he walks, talks, carries himself, presents himself (his presence) all contribute to his energy (including sexual) among other things.

None of that stuff means anything if the physical attraction ain't there.

Again women can smell it on a man even from a distance.

So yeah, often times a woman will know she is sexually attracted before you even approach just by observing him (his energy/vibe).

It's not just about how hot (or physically tall lol) he is.

Women are NOT men, we are wired differently and as such respond to different things.

Women want sex just as much as men do.

 

[zekko]

If a confident man walks into a coffee shop, and the shop is full of cute employees..how will this man's confidence get the cute employees to be physically/sexually attracted to him?

Well, there's good body language, positive posture. A strong presence is going to attract women better than being weak and nervous, with a shaky voice and trembling, avoiding eye contact, sweaty hands, etc.

Women can also be impressed by the way a man comes up and invites her on a date or whatever. There used to be a poster on here who met his wife while out dancing. According to his story, he saw the girl and just went over and grabbed her by the hand and took her out on the dance floor. He said she was impressed by "the way he just came up and got" her. They're impressed by such bold action, since they generally rely on more subtle signals.

I guess you're not wanting to hear about cold approach here, since the OP didn't mention it. The same could apply to a guy just asking a girl for a date, or a hangout, or whatever it is kids do these days. In most cases, the guy is going to have to do the heavy lifting, but if a girl gets a crush on you, she will practically throw herself in your lap.

Yeah, I also like women who are able to take care of things and can handle their life.
But none of that shiit mean anything if I'm not physically/sexually attracted to her!!

There's a difference between men and women being capable in their life. Women have a desire to be protected. Guys don't need to be protected by women, or to have her change a flat tire if that happens. Men are attracted to guys who can handle difficult situations. That's more primal than a man depending on a woman to handle difficult situations.

Anyway, sure there has to be some attraction. Confidence is just one factor among many. But you're better off having it than not. It makes it easier for you to do what you have to do if nothing else. A positive attitude is more likely to get you results than a negative attitude.

 

[Sega Genesis]

No, they can't.

When did you become female? Lol

the dude is fat and ugly, there is no amount of confidence or charisma that will get him in your puzzy.

We both know this, so stop it.

I lliterally just said physical appearance is part of it (sexual attraction) did you miss that part?

Physical appearance is part of it but there's so much more.

.
Please read posts it would be helpful when communicating.

Women want sex just as much as men do.

I agree but we arrive at that place (of wanting sex) differently from men.

Granted not all women. Women with more masculine traits than feminine (or who are in desperate need for validation) might be able to become sexually attracted by the mere sight of a man but for me and women I associate with it's more than just physical appearance.

Hell I've met so called "Chads" who had the energy and personality of an ANT.

You think I want to jump in bed with that even though he's a Chad?

Think again my friend ..... NOT happening.

 

[Vanderdonck]

I am asking, how does a man's confidence, correlate to physical/sexual attraction from a woman?

If a confident man walks into a coffee shop, and the shop is full of cute employees..how will this man's confidence get the cute employees to be physically/sexually attracted to him?

How??

***

They are attracted to me before I hit them with the direct approach...or before they know how much money I have/make, or my grind & hustle hard mentality.

You are asking the very thing you are explaining. So perhaps you should tell us your "how" in your case.

IME attracted women will go out of their way to either talk to me or make eyes. I don't employ a "how." Or maybe I do subconsciously. It doesn't really matter to me.

"I fuked him because of his confidence".

Said no woman, ever.

I've been told this. Many times.

I don't really understand the debate in this thread. Sounds like two different things to me. Focus on your mission. Seize the day with women. Those two concepts coexist. What's the conflict.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

When did you become female? Lol

When did you develope this superpower of detecting confidence, which is a mental state, from a mile away?

I lliterally just said physical appearance is part of it (sexual attraction) did you miss that part?

Physical appearance is EVERYTHING, not just part of it.

Please read posts it would be helpful when communicating.

I read it, I just disagreed with it.

I agree but we arrive at that place (of wanting sex) differently from men.

Granted not all women. Women with more masculine traits than feminine (or who are in desperate need for validation) might be able to become sexually attracted by the mere sight of a man but for me and women I associate with it's more than just physical appearance.

If you're in a supermarket..and you see a gorgeous (very handsome), well built man of stature to your liking..

You know full well, that in the moment, that's all it will take for you to be lust struck.

You're not thinking, "My goodness, that is a fine stud of a man. I wonder how confident he is!?!"

Knock it off.

Hell I've met so called "Chads" who had the energy and personality of an ANT.

You think I want to jump in bed with that even though he's a Chad?

Yeah, I do.

Just like a man would still bang a 10, despite her having the personality of a gray rock.

When you are driven by lust and all you want to do is smash (which constitutes 75% of most men), then all of that other shiit you guys are talking becomes irrelevant.

It is this way with men, and I'm not convinced it is any different for women on the flip side.

Think again my friend ..... NOT happening.

It seems to me, of Alan Roger Currie's 5 archetypes of women, you're what he calls a Wholesome Pretender.

And it's sooo cuteee .

 

[Vanderdonck]

Just like a man would still bang a 10, despite her having the personality of a gray rock.

Then she's not a 10.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

You are asking the very thing you are explaining. So perhaps you should tell us your "how" in your case.

My "how" is pretty damn simple.

I "looksmax" and stress "bodygame".

I strongly advocate for men to hit the gym in efforts to build muscle mass and lose excess fat...becoming better physical versions of themselves.

A byproduct of doing these things is the development of confidence, but this confidence is for YOU, not for the women to sniff and detect (if they do, then fine..but the confidence is for you, not them).

This newly acquired confidence will push YOU to become the leader in the approach and interaction, by boldly stepping to women and having the conversation go wherever you want it to go.

That, is what I'm advocating.

If you walk into a joint and there are 10 women there, at least 3 of them should be checking you out with lustful eyes .

Or, at the very least, even if they aren't checking you out with lustful eyes, you should be able to exchange contact info with at least 3 of them (of whom you're attracted)...because of their interest in you.

That, is my "how".

IME attracted women will go out of their way to either talk to me or make eyes.

Right, because they find you physically attractive.

They aren't going out their way to talk to you or make eyes because..

"You seem to have so much confidence, and I couldn't resist coming to talk to you".

Yeah, ok.

I don't really understand the debate in this thread. Sounds like two different things to me. Focus on your mission. Seize the day with women. Those two concepts coexist. What's the conflict.

The conflict is; the OP first had a "lead with your wallet" mentality to his post...which is not the right message to be spreading...as it promotes weak, simp ass mentalities.

Second, the OP (and others) promotion of the aura of confidence, is oversimplified.

Third, and granted, this was all within the context of OP's message of "stay on your grind & purpose...focus on the $$ bag", which I'm all for...

But then OP took it a step further by suggesting men to not cold approach in the meantime, as if there is conflict between grind & hustle, and new pursuits of women.

I disagreed, and still do.

And here we are.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Ladies, please....

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Then she's not a 10.

When I'm fuking her, I'm fuking her body, not her personality.

So, she is a 10, as I said.

 

[Gamisch]

My "how" is pretty damn simple.

I "looksmax" and stress "bodygame".

I strongly advocate for men to hit the gym in efforts to build muscle mass and lose excess fat...becoming better physical versions of themselves.

A byproduct of doing these things is the development of confidence, but this confidence is for YOU, not for the women to sniff and detect (if they do, then fine..but the confidence is for you, not them).

This newly acquired confidence will push YOU to become the leader in the approach and interaction, by boldly stepping to women and having the conversation go wherever you want it to go.

That, is what I'm advocating.

If you walk into a joint and there are 10 women there, at least 3 of them should be checking you out with lustful eyes .

Or, at the very least, even if they aren't checking you out with lustful eyes, you should be able to exchange contact info with at least 3 of them (of whom you're attracted)...because of their interest in you.

That, is my "how".



Right, because they find you physically attractive.

They aren't going out their way to talk to you or make eyes because..

"You seem to have so much confidence, and I couldn't resist coming to talk to you".

Yeah, ok.



The conflict is; the OP first had a "lead with your wallet" mentality to his post...which is not the right message to be spreading...as it promotes weak, simp ass mentalities.

Second, the OP (and others) promotion of the aura of confidence, is oversimplified.

Third, and granted, this was all within the context of OP's message of "stay on your grind & purpose...focus on the $$ bag", which I'm all for...

But then OP took it a step further by suggesting men to not cold approach in the meantime, as if there is conflict between grind & hustle, and new pursuits of women.

I disagreed, and still do.

And here we are.

I NEVER said a man should lead with his wallet. Cmon now...even the most blue pill beta man knows this. Ive slept with more than 200 women and counting. Heading towards 250 , and 95% without spending anything. Only recently eversince I started making money I spent some now and then, and without flinching.

my philosophy;
1. Get you bag up
2.get your body in shape
3. Work on your mouthpiece / approach/ br out there and present yourself

In that specific order . Here the catch tho; the first two lone can take up most of your time. So I indeed say that CO MIGHT be a waste of time IF your ROI isn't top notch. And even IF your roi is topnotch, now you'll HAVE to spent. We're grown men ain't we??? I take zero pride in fecking a woman in the bushes just tokeep the costs low.

I say that the time wasted on scouting women could and should be spent on growing financially and secondly physically. Ofcourse this COULD be a mere phase in a man's life, just like your CO approach COULD be a phase where a man must go through. My experience has thought me that eventually ,when applying 1 and 2 your ROI might be even better!

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I NEVER said a man should lead with his wallet. Cmon now...even the most blue pill beta man knows this. Ive slept with more than 200 women and counting. Heading towards 250 , and 95% without spending anything. Only recently eversince I started making money I spent some now and then, and without flinching.

my philosophy;
1. Get you bag up
2.get your body in shape
3. Work on your mouthpiece / approach/ br out there and present yourself

In that specific order . Here the catch tho; the first two lone can take up most of your time. So I indeed say that CO MIGHT be a waste of time IF your ROI isn't top notch. And even IF your roi is topnotch, now you'll HAVE to spent. We're grown men ain't we??? I take zero pride in fecking a woman in the bushes just tokeep the costs low.

I say that the time wasted on scouting women could and should be spent on growing financially and secondly physically. Ofcourse this COULD be a mere phase in a man's life, just like your CO approach COULD be a phase where a man must go through. My experience has thought me that eventually ,when applying 1 and 2 your ROI might be even better!

 

[Gamisch]

Que?????

I don't talk in smileys me bratan

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Que?????

I don't talk in smileys me bratan

I said what I said .

 

[Gamisch]

I said what I said .

You a G regardless . I know you a real one.

But... sometimes a bit stubborn. Salute nevertheless. Let's keep the discussion going.