Fr? Keep your mind on the grind and result will follow

[Gamisch]

Been in a debate with @We_ArE_VeNOM specifically, and some people value FRs.

So my focus is om grinding, making bank and bizz. Meanwhile my philosophy is that given all the game I've studied, women I've slept and dealt with and overall life experience including keeping my body fresh, it MIGHT be a winners formula.

I'm working for this hot woman renovating her crib. Today she came up to me and told me really like me and wants to eat me up( her words). I told her this is what I think about your words and just kissed her. Movie style, right then someone ringed at her bell and we had to pretend to be " professional " again. When I left she was all over me. I will hit that when I feel like it. Last Saturdaysl I went for some drinks with a woman. And made her *** 5 times. I came twice field report. Now she is pushing like crazy for more.

So again; I say a man should focus on the GRIND and women will follow...especially if he knows the blahblah about female nature I m trying to be the ULTIMATE version of myself, because the old version could pull. The new version will be incredible. I'm 1000% confident that I can add many more similar stories IF my focus stays where it's at right now. No need to chase because as recently I AM the prize that women WANT TO chase.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Been in a debate with @We_ArE_VeNOM specifically, and some people value FRs.

So my focus is om grinding, making bank and bizz. Meanwhile my philosophy is that given all the game I've studied, women I've slept and dealt with and overall life experience including keeping my body fresh, it MIGHT be a winners formula.

I'm working for this hot woman renovating her crib. Today she came up to me and told me really like me and wants to eat me up( her words). I told her this is what I think about your words and just kissed her. Movie style, right then someone ringed at her bell and we had to pretend to be " professional " again. When I left she was all over me. I will hit that when I feel like it. Last Saturdaysl I went for some drinks with a woman. And made her *** 5 times. I came twice field report. Now she is pushing like crazy for more.

So again; I say a man should focus on the GRIND and women will follow...especially if he knows the blahblah about female nature I m trying to be the ULTIMATE version of myself, because the old version could pull. The new version will be incredible. I'm 1000% confident that I can add many more similar stories IF my focus stays where it's at right now. No need to chase because as recently I AM the prize that women WANT TO chase.

It wasn't your money or your grind that got her on you, brethren.

That is kinda my point.

Props for going in on the kiss, though.

That's the way to do it.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Get paid first. I had a conversation this week with a guy who told me a similar story, but it ended in the woman refusing to pay for the work after they fvcked. She seemed to think she had already paid with a currency different than money.

 

[Scaramouche]

Get paid first. I had a conversation this week with a guy who told me a similar story, but it ended in the woman refusing to pay for the work after they fvcked. She seemed to think she had already paid with a currency different than money.

Hi Bibles,
You are dead right,never mix Business with Fandango...When I was contracting I had several opportunities thrown at me,though tempted,business always came first....It's strange but a Woman with a captive Tradesman,behaves like a Dog with two Dvicks.

 

[Gamisch]

Hi Bibles,
You are dead right,never mix Business with Fandango...When I was contracting I had several opportunities thrown at me,though tempted,business always came first....It's strange but a Woman with a captive Tradesman,behaves like a Dog with two Dvicks.

I agree. Iam definitely walking on thin ice by engaging in this behaviour with a client.

It's better to remain professional because she can lead to many more jobs. She's promotthe he'll out of me telling everyone about my business. But...I can sense that people close to her are looking at me with " side eyes". They feel somethings up..

 

[Gamisch]

It wasn't your money or your grind that got her on you, brethren.

That is kinda my point.

Props for going in on the kiss, though.

That's the way to do it.

Then what is? The grind= focus on getting that paper= being there in the first place = not being overly focused on her p00sy( at first).

 

[The Duke]

I kind of agree with Venom here. Right place, right time. She likes your vibe so she made a comment and you took her up on it. Keep flirting with her but make sure you get paid and wait to fuhk her until after the job is done.

Women have used sex to get things their entire life, they are quite skilled at it.

 

[Gamisch]

I kind of agree with Venom here. Right place, right time. She likes your vibe so she made a comment and you took her up on it. Keep flirting with her but make sure you get paid and wait to fuhk her until after the job is done.

Women have used sex to get things their entire life, they are quite skilled at it.

Thanks a lot Duke. Especially the advice to NOT FECK HER untill the job is done is gold...and tbh I can't even promise I'll stick with it..but it's great to at least keep in in my mind.

But : what about the fact that we as men ought to CREATE this vibe, so the " right place right time" occurs more and more often?

This may sound arrogant, but I'm not surprised about this situation. Like a hot woman won't be surprised to learn that man xyz likes her...it's the same pattern all over again.

 

[The Duke]

But : what about the fact that we as men ought to CREATE this vibe, so the " right place right time" occurs more and more often?

This may sound arrogant, but I'm not surprised about this situation. Like a hot woman won't be surprised to learn that man xyz likes her...it's the same pattern all over again.

When I got good at dating and almost every single one of my first dates turned into subsequent dates, "CREATING THE VIBE" was exactly how I did it. It starts only when a man is comfortable with who he is.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Then what is?

Physical attraction.

The grind= focus on getting that paper

The relevancy of this, is so low that it is hardly worthy of any consideration.

= being there in the first place

Yeah, cold approach is also about being there in the first place.

If that woman was attracted to you in her home, she would have been attracted to you at the supermarket.

= not being overly focused on her p00sy( at first).

Nothing wrong with being overly focused on the puzzy.

 

[zekko]

The relevancy of this, is so low that it is hardly worthy of any consideration.

I disagree with that, being successful and knowing you've made yourself successful through your own efforts is a huge confidence boost, and gives you the aura of a guy who can take care of things. And that's what attracts women.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I disagree with that, being successful and knowing you've made yourself successful through your own efforts is a huge confidence boost, and gives you the aura of a guy who can take care of things.

And that's what attracts women.

Oh, so let's apply this to the real world..

Let's imagine you've made yourself successful, through your own efforts.

And also with that success, you've gotten a confidence boost.

Now, give me a scenario where this success, and this recent confidence boost, will attract women who are genuinely sexually/physically attracted to you.

Enlighten me on the real world application of this..as to how this works?

 

[zekko]

Oh, so let's apply this to the real world..
Let's imagine you've made yourself successful, through your own efforts.
And also with that success, you've gotten a confidence boost.
Now, give me a scenario where this success, and this recent confidence boost, will attract women who are genuinely sexually/physically attracted to you.
Enlighten me on the real world application of this..as to how this works?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say, or what you're asking. Are you trying to see being confident doesn't attract women?
And if she's already attracted to you, what difference does it make?
I'm no expert on confidence, all I know is that women like guys who are able to take care of things, and handle their life, or whatever might come up.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Been in a debate with @We_ArE_VeNOM specifically, and some people value FRs.

So my focus is om grinding, making bank and bizz. Meanwhile my philosophy is that given all the game I've studied, women I've slept and dealt with and overall life experience including keeping my body fresh, it MIGHT be a winners formula.

I'm working for this hot woman renovating her crib. Today she came up to me and told me really like me and wants to eat me up( her words). I told her this is what I think about your words and just kissed her. Movie style, right then someone ringed at her bell and we had to pretend to be " professional " again. When I left she was all over me. I will hit that when I feel like it. Last Saturdaysl I went for some drinks with a woman. And made her *** 5 times. I came twice field report. Now she is pushing like crazy for more.

So again; I say a man should focus on the GRIND and women will follow...especially if he knows the blahblah about female nature I m trying to be the ULTIMATE version of myself, because the old version could pull. The new version will be incredible. I'm 1000% confident that I can add many more similar stories IF my focus stays where it's at right now. No need to chase because as recently I AM the prize that women WANT TO chase.

Agree with this. It's get in where you fit in, ladies. Focusing primarily on the grind also helps me stay divested from any outcomes with females. They usually track you down at some point anyway.

Caveat, as long as you're not using the grind/mission as an excuse not to be social at all or be an incel. Easy to rationalize "I'm grinding" if you have zero options.

 

[tksniper]

I like to grind as well. Usually from 5 am to midnight. It makes me feel like a man with purpose. However, I like to work at coffee shops where there are women there. And the gym as well. As well as mma/boxing classes.

Grinding and gaming women doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive. I just know that if all I did was go out with the intention of gaming women without pursuing my purpose and hobbies, I would just start to feel depressed.

Putting an overemphasis on women isn’t for everyone. Some guys enjoy the grind and it it gives them a sense of purpose and confidence.

However if your passion is gaming women, I won’t knock that either. Some guys genuinely enjoy chasing women 24/7.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I'm not sure what you're trying to say, or what you're asking.

Reading comprehension.

I asked you to give me a scenario where confidence will equate to a woman being physically/sexually attracted to a man.

Keywords: Physically/sexually.

Are you trying to see being confident doesn't attract women?

How will a woman know if man is confident, in order for her to be attracted to him?

Please answer the question, because you guys are sounding like a bunch of damn fools....as if confident guys have captions above their heads that say, "Hey, ladies. I am confident. Please approach me".

And if a man is so damn confident, then that confidence should spring him into action (cold approaching)...which is precisely what OP is suggesting you shouldn't do.

And if she's already attracted to you, what difference does it make?

What??

I'm no expert on confidence, all I know is that women like guys who are able to take care of things, and handle their life, or whatever might come up.

Yeah, I also like women who are able to take care of things and can handle their life.

But none of that shiit mean anything if I'm not physically/sexually attracted to her!!

 

[Captain Redbeard]

confident guys have captions above their heads that say, "Hey, ladies. I am confident. Please approach me".

Confidence will be clear in the way a man carries himself. Women are drawn to this and it does absolutely contribute to attraction.

You apply your confidence in a direct approach. @Gamisch applied his confidence by taking action while isolated with his new favorite client.

What is this debate even about? How you derive confidence is not important, whether you do so in the gym, through career success, etc. But confidence is definitely an important factor in attraction. To argue that confidence doesn't get a woman wet is laughable.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Confidence will be clear in the way a man carries himself. Women are drawn to this and it does absolutely contribute to attraction.

You guys are saying the same thing with very little substance behind anything.

I am asking, how does a man's confidence, correlate to physical/sexual attraction from a woman?

If a confident man walks into a coffee shop, and the shop is full of cute employees..how will this man's confidence get the cute employees to be physically/sexually attracted to him?

How??

Woman A: "Wow, he walked in here with so much confidence...I want to date him".

Woman B: "Wow. Did you see the way he ordered his coffee? He placed his order with so much confidence. He knew exactly what he wanted to order. I think I'm in love".

Is that how you think it works?

You apply your confidence in a direct approach. @Gamisch applied his confidence by taking action while isolated with his new favorite client.

Yeah, I apply my confidence in a direct approach, but it ain't the direct approach that makes a woman physically/sexually attracted to me.

They are attracted to me before I hit them with the direct approach...or before they know how much money I have/make, or my grind & hustle hard mentality.

That is what you guys fail to realize.

What is this debate even about? How you derive confidence is not important, whether you do so in the gym, through career success, etc. But confidence is definitely an important factor in attraction. To argue that confidence doesn't get a woman wet is laughable.

"I fuked him because of his confidence".

Said no woman, ever.

 

[Gamisch]

Reading comprehension.

I asked you to give me a scenario where confidence will equate to a woman being physically/sexually attracted to a man.

Keywords: Physically/sexually.



How will a woman know if man is confident, in order for her to be attracted to him?

Please answer the question, because you guys are sounding like a bunch of damn fools....as if confident guys have captions above their heads that say, "Hey, ladies. I am confident. Please approach me".

And if a man is so damn confident, then that confidence should spring him into action (cold approaching)...which is precisely what OP is suggesting you shouldn't do.



What??



Yeah, I also like women who are able to take care of things and can handle their life.

But none of that shiit mean anything if I'm not physically/sexually attracted to her!!

Sometimes you gotta experience certain things to believe it's true. Let's never forget: we all here because one way or another we're experts at GETTING women.

We are NOT women so we will never fully know and understand the female gaze. Heck, sometimes there are identical twins and yet one is an incel while the other one is a player. Kinda similar to what I've been saying about the carbon copy (in the previous thread).

Women have so much abundance that they're be looking for and are attracted to other aspects such as ENERGY . Now imagine a lurker wanting to know how to apply energy to get women....and then ask @Sega Genesis about it...She'll tell you.

Hey ladies I'm confident can take many shapes:
- by approaching
- but also by ignoring!!
- by your overall presence
- by the way you carry yourself.

This is perhaps one of the deepest things when it comes to game. Hence why the frustration is so bad for most men( 66 % do NOT date). It's like an invisible strength that simply can't be bought I a store. It's even nearly impossible to teach.

 

[Gamisch]

You guys are saying the same thing with very little substance behind anything.

I am asking, how does a man's confidence, correlate to physical/sexual attraction from a woman?

If a confident man walks into a coffee shop, and the shop is full of cute employees..how will this man's confidence get the cute employees to be physically/sexually attracted to him?

How??

Woman A: "Wow, he walked in here with so much confidence...I want to date him".

Woman B: "Wow. Did you see the way he ordered his coffee? He placed his order with so much confidence. He knew exactly what he wanted to order. I think I'm in love".

Is that how you think it works?



Yeah, I apply my confidence in a direct approach, but it ain't the direct approach that makes a woman physically/sexually attracted to me.

They are attracted to me before I hit them with the direct approach...or before they know how much money I have/make, or my grind & hustle hard mentality.

That is what you guys fail to realize.



"I fuked him because of his confidence".

Said no woman, ever.

Wrong.

Many women slept with a dude due to his confidence, demeanour, mouthpiece, charm, character, charisma ect. Even if he is NORMALLY wouldn't ever be her type. Even if he's ftmat, old ,balding, beer belly broke, ect

One of the best examples that even the blue pilled beta man will understand is this:

" when I have a gf suddenly I get tons of game. When I am single women won't touch me with a ten foot pole".
Energy. Confidence. Being comfortable in one's own skin ect ect

At the end of the day cold approach is nothing bit a tool, but it's never the ONLY way to get women as I proof in this thread.