"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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FR: Insta-date then found out she’s a virgin

RickPound

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Fellas,

Met this 24 yr old girl at a networking event last week. I was there solo as Was she. She came up to me and introduced herself while I was at the open bar. Young,cute, and good conversation so I decided to go for the same night date. After some rapport, I said “let’s get outta here and go get a drink. I know another place with dancing and a band”.

Got to talking later that night and it came up that she was a virgin and saving herself for marriage. Even has a promise ring To herself she wears on her ring finger. Anyway, didn’t let it phase me. There was touching, close dancing, etc but I didn’t push it and dropped her off at her hotel. She texted later that night and seemed to fish a bit for an invite. Told her to come back over but it fizzled out.
Anyway, I’m pretty sure if I ask her out again she’s into it, but damn I don’t know if I’m ready for all the effort to try and get some from her.

she could be lying too of course
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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bat soup

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she was a virgin and saving herself for marriage.
Doesn't seem like she's doing a very good job. My advice: tell her that you'll do her in the mouth and then in the ass (in that order) and that way she'll still be a virgin. That way she'll keep her sacred "innocence" for the naive virgin lover she ends up marrying and his wallet will be the first to jizz into her purse.
 

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Anyway, I’m pretty sure if I ask her out again she’s into it, but damn I don’t know if I’m ready for all the effort to try and get some from her.

she could be lying too of course
Man, there are plenty of hoes out there, don't take advantage of this girl...karma and all that.
If she's lying and/or is a born-again virgin, do you really want to deal with such a blatant liar/nutcase?
 

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You’re both right. Nothing can be determined without a second date. I’ll play it a bit aggressive and get her to show her hand.
 

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texted her a couple days later with a little banter. She said she was recovering from the flu - before I even asked her out again. But I still said rest up I wanna take you out next week. She sent some dumb meme back. Classic…

leaving this one unless she shows interest after “she gets better”
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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