"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
FR: Girl talked to me.
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Jukeboxhero
Senior Don Juan
So you did get her number, right?
Grand Wizzard Alamar
Master Don Juan
Nice but you gotta work on your closing... be interesting and keep talking to her because you don't wanna seem boring. make yourself occupied!!!
Also, it's kind of boring when you just end with 1 word.. she also sounded uninterested.
Yeah.
I.A.F.Y.B.
Master Don Juan
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Grand Wizzard Alamar
Master Don Juan
much smoother than,I.A.F.Y.B. said:3 little words. "What's your number."
can I call you?
can I get your number?
etc.
it even has a period instead of a question mark... I like that!
Grand Wizzard Alamar
Master Don Juan
Actually I have used this.ElStud said:Thanks guys but no offense GWA but I don't think you should be giving advice. Sure it sounds good, but likely you yourself haven't used it in field yet.
I've asked for #s in question form and got an answer in statement form.
You have to close though man.. not just leaving it at yeah... I've also done that... not good, it sucks.
Grand Wizzard Alamar
Master Don Juan
No she actually saw you playing air guitar and decided to ask you if you played normal guitar too.ElStud said:She probably just saw me as high value and decided to talk to me.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Point is she was interested and yes, probably saw me as high value. If she wasn't interested she probably wouldn't of asked it in the first place and wouldn't have brought up the piano thing.Grand Wizzard Alamar said:No she actually saw you playing air guitar and decided to ask you if you played normal guitar too.
Grand Wizzard Alamar
Master Don Juan
Elstud, it's good that you have the mindset of being higher value, but all she did was ask you if you played guitar.ElStud said:Point is she was interested and yes, probably saw me as high value. If she wasn't interested she probably wouldn't of asked it in the first place and wouldn't have brought up the piano thing.
She wasn't all like "hey sexy, let me play your air guitar" while strumming you over the crotch...
She didn't back away when I initiated meeting her though. She could of easily said "No that's not a good idea". This is why I say don't give advice man, you may be somewhat experienced, but it's clear you still have some way to go.Grand Wizzard Alamar said:Elstud, it's good that you have the mindset of being higher value, but all she did was ask you if you played guitar.
She wasn't all like "hey sexy, let me play your air guitar" while strumming you over the crotch...
Grand Wizzard Alamar
Master Don Juan
haha she must love you.ElStud said:She didn't back away when I initiated meeting her though. She could of easily said "No that's not a good idea".
Chicks Just Dig Me
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Again this is why I tell you to NOT give advice. Sure you might've tested things in field, but you have a LONG way to go and it's clear you don't know a lot of stuff about interest, attraction in the like. That's okay, but when you try to act like you do know something about attraction that's bad.Grand Wizzard Alamar said:haha she must love you.
Grand Wizzard Alamar
Master Don Juan
Oh really? Same for you in this case.ElStud said:Again this is why I tell you to NOT give advice. Sure you might've tested things in field, but you have a LONG way to go and it's clear you don't know a lot of stuff about interest, attraction in the like. That's okay, but when you try to act like you do know something about attraction that's bad.
Michele l'Arcangelo
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jaja!ElStud said:FR: Girl talked to me.
the sarcasm in the replies are hilarious!
well i think they are sarcasm... not sure. but it's still hilarious how they are making it seem like an incredible feat that a girl talked to you. well it might actually be a incredible feat for you.
great job! you are now lvl. -1/5 instead of lvl. -5/5... a few more FRs you might actually make it out of the hole and be a lvl. 0/5 Half-elf Alphamale!
Chicks Just Dig Me
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.