You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
yah well then he shouldn't be texting her. he should be about his business being a man and should call her when he's free and she's free. He seem like some needy guy who just met his first hot chic. All up in her face with a million texts. I usually don't agree with iqqi but this time I actually do. It sounds like she's just toying with him from start...bar girls are notorieously evil. If they smell a rat in any sense...yer dead in the water. They get hit on every night and hear every line in the book. The only bartender I pulled I pulled from a sense of quiet self assurance. Guys offering money, showing their wangs, bragging about their riches, trying to buy them stuff, even guys being wangy and funny (hehe), they seen it all. I pulled mine by coming off as a real man who didn't try to impress her but got to know her as a real person and refusing to pedestal her because she was hot. Your mileage may vary.Latinoman said:By the way...I don't think she wants to talk to him via telephone. I won't be surprised if she will ignore him if he calls her now. I think she is at work or something like that.
I agree.Latinoman said:If he is playing the text game...with a young woman...he CANNOT take anything serious.
If she is sending psycho texts, because she doesn't give a f@ck. Then he should go for broke too and act like he does not give a damn.
Who knows...maybe he can raise a little bit of her interest...or put her in a situation in which she has to classify herself. I doubt that, because he already made some serious mistakes with the texting early on.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Warrior74 said:yah well then he shouldn't be texting her. he should be about his business being a man and should call her when he's free and she's free. He seem like some needy guy who just met his first hot chic. All up in her face with a million texts. I usually don't agree with iqqi but this time I actually do. It sounds like she's just toying with him from start...bar girls are notorieously evil. If they smell a rat in any sense...yer dead in the water. They get hit on every night and hear every line in the book. The only bartender I pulled I pulled from a sense of quiet self assurance. Guys offering money, showing their wangs, bragging about their riches, trying to buy them stuff, even guys being wangy and funny (hehe), they seen it all. I pulled mine by coming off as a real man who didn't try to impress her but got to know her as a real person and refusing to pedestal her because she was hot. Your mileage may vary.
I think the OP should continue to post in this thread, see it all the way through so we can see what he learned from this.
I was wondering the same thing.iqqi said:?
And why is this thread in the MM forum? You have to be 25+ to post here.
Thanks for the support.iqqi said:I agree.
But I doubt he can pull it off.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Thanks bro...she didn't text me back or call me after our last texts...from now on, ill try not to play the texting game...the way i looked at it...i didn't really care. I wanted her, but seemed she was a total tease and i said things that made her lose interest.Apollo said:Ken, how old are you?
Did you honestly say "later gator"?
Taking a quick glance at your text's I'm sorry to say but it's game over...you blew your chance with this one. Learn from your mistakes (texting way too much) and apply the lessons learned to the next one.