"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Interesting...I suppose that their loss is our gain.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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HMmm..

Well, I agree that I would prefer to be emailed regarding such a matter.

I do realize that trolls and KBJs are a problem. That's why I am really hoping these forums will pick up on "group meets", so we can quickly set up lists of probably trolls to ignore posts from. Although, it is possible to rule out most trolls and KBJs by content, it's hard to be 100% certain.
 

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I've read your FRs and they seem to be very simple and straight forward in content. They come off as a normal guy being himself and just talking to girls.

The mASF "game" on the other hand is basically countless routines, tricks and is very fake. You have to understand that mASF was the first seduction website, and it was made by nerds FOR nerds. They want their elvis scripts, cubes, ladders and canned openers because they think that's the only way they can pick up women. They don't think that having a normal random conversation with a girl and being themselves will get them anywhere because they've tried to do it before finding mASF, and failed miserably.

The whole mantra of mASF is "if you've been yourself and haven't been getting laid, then being yourself doesn't work."

So when they read a FR like yours and see basic male/woman dialogue, they think "Ok, what can I learn from this? He didn't use an opener, or negs, or c&f or any of that sh!t, what can I learn from this? this sh!T is a joke, it doesn't work, and this guy is making fun of us. ban the troll".

What they fail to understand is, it's not what you say, but how you say it, and how you handle yourself. Being yourself works, but you have to be functioning at 100% of your potential. If you are social, smart, confident, have an amazing body, are fully independant, and have balls, being yourself is the only thing you need. These guys aren't functioning at 100% of their potential, and as a result they have to resort to talking about elvis' dyed hair, and giving the b!tch a palm reading.

Take a break from these seduction communities, and just focus on yourself man. Talk to girls for yourself, not for FRs. Be social, expand your circle of friends, and improve the other areas of your life. Educate yourself, get a good job, a nice place to live in, work out, build a body that makes girls wet, and you'll be better off then reading that silly kid sh!t at mASF.


Peace out.
 

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Originally posted by MindOverMatter
I've read your FRs and they seem to be very simple and straight forward in content. They come off as a normal guy being himself and just talking to girls.
The whole mantra of mASF is "if you've been yourself and haven't been getting laid, then being yourself doesn't work."

SNIP SNIP

Peace out.
Dude, I just checked out your sig. I didn't know people on this board actually had game! You're the man. =p

I'll bet your ripped abs are a smaller part of your game than you think. You have an attractive face, great body language, style, etc. Add to that what I'm sure is some authentic rapport and obviously you can get girls.

Not that I'm ripping on going to the gym (get it? ripping?). But I know guys with bigger muscles than you and more ripped abs, and I score hot women from underneath their noses all the time.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Shezzler......As a member of SoSuave, Masf, and Mystery's Lounge....your game is more be confident, be yourself, have the right attitude....their game is more use the exact lines and techniques. Your FR's dont do anything for them.....they want lines and techniques that will help them. They are also very strict in what you post unlike here......
 

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Shezz: once u started posting on this forum, you did seem like a know-it-all and a big-time post *****. But if all the sh#t u say is true and honest, I have absolutely nothing against u.

But I can see how the mASF people could take offense to you. You immediately join the forum and starting showing people 'your game'. They probably didn't like some random person going in there and telling them how to 'approach it'. Think about it, you'd probably take offense as well.
 

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Don't worry about it Shezzler because masf lacks soul... they turn people into mindless instantaeous gratification sex craved drones...
 

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Originally posted by Smooth Player 056
Shezzler......As a member of SoSuave, Masf, and Mystery's Lounge....your game is more be confident, be yourself, have the right attitude....their game is more use the exact lines and techniques. Your FR's dont do anything for them.....they want lines and techniques that will help them. They are also very strict in what you post unlike here......
Whats mysterys lounge like :confused:
 

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Shezz,

I think its ridiculous that you were banned on mASF, given all the keyboard jockeys that are allowed to post there. The reason why you were banned is

1. Because you're associated with this site, and
2. Because you don't talk in acronyms like most of ASF.

I've met Formhandle in real life, and I was sorely disappointed. I thought he'd be some kind of incredibly confident pick-up guru, but he's just a little man who couldn't even look me in the eye. He's a keyboard jockey. Word is he used to be good, but he's kind of dropped out of the game now.

Form can go on internet powertrips every now and then, don't let him get to you. I'd just make another username and keep posting on mASF.

-Dan
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by MindOverMatter
Talk to girls for yourself, not for FRs. Be social, expand your circle of friends, and improve the other areas of your life...and you'll be better off then reading that silly kid sh!t at mASF.
pretty much. you'll notice that once you just become social and give off that "sociable vibe" people will also just start talking to you...since last week, i haven't gone through one day without a girl approaching me.

in fact, if you do that, you'll be better off than reading much at all. having read some of your FRs in the past, it seems like you already "got it," and you just need to keep doing what you've been doing.

don't waste your time with mASF. other than the working out bit, which i agree with but haven't been doing as much as i should myself, i definitely agree with the above comment, i guarantee you it works...and it's all you need to do.

and forget the whole internet-beef crap. just don't waste your time, there are so many damn opportunities everywhere, every single second and minute counts.

sarge on shezz...:D
 

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Too many want to be "the alpha male"

Docters respect docters
Lawyers respect other lawyers
Women respect other women
But it seems like pua, seductions masters, don juans, players or whatever title one uses seem to fight amongst themselves like nobody's business!
it seems as if there is always a battle for everyone who isn't a newbie trying to be the "alpha dog" of the forum.
I'm still trying to figure out why a circle of people who have the exact same interest seems to fight so much!

ps. The funnest thing is the males like fighting amongst themselves here but have no problem when women come here and post foolishness.
 

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mASF creates carbon copies of other people. Sosuave helps people think for themselves and teaches them to rely on their own abilities to pick up women.

mASF will give a technique
Sosuave explains how the technique works so others can have the knowledge to create their own techniques.
 

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SoSuave has the right idea in mind...the problem is that people will often hide behind "self improvement" as an excuse not to get their seduction skills handled.

ASF may be crammed with too much robotic nonsense, but after meeting people from both communities, I have to say that at least ASFers go OUT. SoSuave is swamped with AFCs who are virgins yet give other guys advice on how to get laid...WTF :confused:
 
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“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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