aftershock
Master Don Juan
Interesting...I suppose that their loss is our gain.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Formhandle???
- Thread starter aftershock
- Start date
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
jiza101
Master Don Juan
He checks this site, he has something against people from sosuave 
everywomanshero
Master Don Juan
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HMmm..
Well, I agree that I would prefer to be emailed regarding such a matter.
I do realize that trolls and KBJs are a problem. That's why I am really hoping these forums will pick up on "group meets", so we can quickly set up lists of probably trolls to ignore posts from. Although, it is possible to rule out most trolls and KBJs by content, it's hard to be 100% certain.
Well, I agree that I would prefer to be emailed regarding such a matter.
I do realize that trolls and KBJs are a problem. That's why I am really hoping these forums will pick up on "group meets", so we can quickly set up lists of probably trolls to ignore posts from. Although, it is possible to rule out most trolls and KBJs by content, it's hard to be 100% certain.
MindOverMatter
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I've read your FRs and they seem to be very simple and straight forward in content. They come off as a normal guy being himself and just talking to girls.
The mASF "game" on the other hand is basically countless routines, tricks and is very fake. You have to understand that mASF was the first seduction website, and it was made by nerds FOR nerds. They want their elvis scripts, cubes, ladders and canned openers because they think that's the only way they can pick up women. They don't think that having a normal random conversation with a girl and being themselves will get them anywhere because they've tried to do it before finding mASF, and failed miserably.
The whole mantra of mASF is "if you've been yourself and haven't been getting laid, then being yourself doesn't work."
So when they read a FR like yours and see basic male/woman dialogue, they think "Ok, what can I learn from this? He didn't use an opener, or negs, or c&f or any of that sh!t, what can I learn from this? this sh!T is a joke, it doesn't work, and this guy is making fun of us. ban the troll".
What they fail to understand is, it's not what you say, but how you say it, and how you handle yourself. Being yourself works, but you have to be functioning at 100% of your potential. If you are social, smart, confident, have an amazing body, are fully independant, and have balls, being yourself is the only thing you need. These guys aren't functioning at 100% of their potential, and as a result they have to resort to talking about elvis' dyed hair, and giving the b!tch a palm reading.
Take a break from these seduction communities, and just focus on yourself man. Talk to girls for yourself, not for FRs. Be social, expand your circle of friends, and improve the other areas of your life. Educate yourself, get a good job, a nice place to live in, work out, build a body that makes girls wet, and you'll be better off then reading that silly kid sh!t at mASF.
Peace out.
The mASF "game" on the other hand is basically countless routines, tricks and is very fake. You have to understand that mASF was the first seduction website, and it was made by nerds FOR nerds. They want their elvis scripts, cubes, ladders and canned openers because they think that's the only way they can pick up women. They don't think that having a normal random conversation with a girl and being themselves will get them anywhere because they've tried to do it before finding mASF, and failed miserably.
The whole mantra of mASF is "if you've been yourself and haven't been getting laid, then being yourself doesn't work."
So when they read a FR like yours and see basic male/woman dialogue, they think "Ok, what can I learn from this? He didn't use an opener, or negs, or c&f or any of that sh!t, what can I learn from this? this sh!T is a joke, it doesn't work, and this guy is making fun of us. ban the troll".
What they fail to understand is, it's not what you say, but how you say it, and how you handle yourself. Being yourself works, but you have to be functioning at 100% of your potential. If you are social, smart, confident, have an amazing body, are fully independant, and have balls, being yourself is the only thing you need. These guys aren't functioning at 100% of their potential, and as a result they have to resort to talking about elvis' dyed hair, and giving the b!tch a palm reading.
Take a break from these seduction communities, and just focus on yourself man. Talk to girls for yourself, not for FRs. Be social, expand your circle of friends, and improve the other areas of your life. Educate yourself, get a good job, a nice place to live in, work out, build a body that makes girls wet, and you'll be better off then reading that silly kid sh!t at mASF.
Peace out.
Alphathree
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Dude, I just checked out your sig. I didn't know people on this board actually had game! You're the man. =p
I'll bet your ripped abs are a smaller part of your game than you think. You have an attractive face, great body language, style, etc. Add to that what I'm sure is some authentic rapport and obviously you can get girls.
Not that I'm ripping on going to the gym (get it? ripping?). But I know guys with bigger muscles than you and more ripped abs, and I score hot women from underneath their noses all the time.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Smooth Player 056
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Shezzler......As a member of SoSuave, Masf, and Mystery's Lounge....your game is more be confident, be yourself, have the right attitude....their game is more use the exact lines and techniques. Your FR's dont do anything for them.....they want lines and techniques that will help them. They are also very strict in what you post unlike here......
Shezz: once u started posting on this forum, you did seem like a know-it-all and a big-time post *****. But if all the sh#t u say is true and honest, I have absolutely nothing against u.
But I can see how the mASF people could take offense to you. You immediately join the forum and starting showing people 'your game'. They probably didn't like some random person going in there and telling them how to 'approach it'. Think about it, you'd probably take offense as well.
But I can see how the mASF people could take offense to you. You immediately join the forum and starting showing people 'your game'. They probably didn't like some random person going in there and telling them how to 'approach it'. Think about it, you'd probably take offense as well.
DjDreamer
Master Don Juan
Don't worry about it Shezzler because masf lacks soul... they turn people into mindless instantaeous gratification sex craved drones...
jiza101
Master Don Juan
Whats mysterys lounge like
Spirit Fingers
Don Juan
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Shezz,
I think its ridiculous that you were banned on mASF, given all the keyboard jockeys that are allowed to post there. The reason why you were banned is
1. Because you're associated with this site, and
2. Because you don't talk in acronyms like most of ASF.
I've met Formhandle in real life, and I was sorely disappointed. I thought he'd be some kind of incredibly confident pick-up guru, but he's just a little man who couldn't even look me in the eye. He's a keyboard jockey. Word is he used to be good, but he's kind of dropped out of the game now.
Form can go on internet powertrips every now and then, don't let him get to you. I'd just make another username and keep posting on mASF.
-Dan
I think its ridiculous that you were banned on mASF, given all the keyboard jockeys that are allowed to post there. The reason why you were banned is
1. Because you're associated with this site, and
2. Because you don't talk in acronyms like most of ASF.
I've met Formhandle in real life, and I was sorely disappointed. I thought he'd be some kind of incredibly confident pick-up guru, but he's just a little man who couldn't even look me in the eye. He's a keyboard jockey. Word is he used to be good, but he's kind of dropped out of the game now.
Form can go on internet powertrips every now and then, don't let him get to you. I'd just make another username and keep posting on mASF.
-Dan
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
h2o
Banned
pretty much. you'll notice that once you just become social and give off that "sociable vibe" people will also just start talking to you...since last week, i haven't gone through one day without a girl approaching me.
in fact, if you do that, you'll be better off than reading much at all. having read some of your FRs in the past, it seems like you already "got it," and you just need to keep doing what you've been doing.
don't waste your time with mASF. other than the working out bit, which i agree with but haven't been doing as much as i should myself, i definitely agree with the above comment, i guarantee you it works...and it's all you need to do.
and forget the whole internet-beef crap. just don't waste your time, there are so many damn opportunities everywhere, every single second and minute counts.
sarge on shezz...
Royal Elite
Banned
Too many want to be "the alpha male"
Docters respect docters
Lawyers respect other lawyers
Women respect other women
But it seems like pua, seductions masters, don juans, players or whatever title one uses seem to fight amongst themselves like nobody's business!
it seems as if there is always a battle for everyone who isn't a newbie trying to be the "alpha dog" of the forum.
I'm still trying to figure out why a circle of people who have the exact same interest seems to fight so much!
ps. The funnest thing is the males like fighting amongst themselves here but have no problem when women come here and post foolishness.
Docters respect docters
Lawyers respect other lawyers
Women respect other women
But it seems like pua, seductions masters, don juans, players or whatever title one uses seem to fight amongst themselves like nobody's business!
it seems as if there is always a battle for everyone who isn't a newbie trying to be the "alpha dog" of the forum.
I'm still trying to figure out why a circle of people who have the exact same interest seems to fight so much!
ps. The funnest thing is the males like fighting amongst themselves here but have no problem when women come here and post foolishness.
Desdinova
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mASF creates carbon copies of other people. Sosuave helps people think for themselves and teaches them to rely on their own abilities to pick up women.
mASF will give a technique
Sosuave explains how the technique works so others can have the knowledge to create their own techniques.
mASF will give a technique
Sosuave explains how the technique works so others can have the knowledge to create their own techniques.
NINJA PIMP
Banned
SoSuave has the right idea in mind...the problem is that people will often hide behind "self improvement" as an excuse not to get their seduction skills handled.
ASF may be crammed with too much robotic nonsense, but after meeting people from both communities, I have to say that at least ASFers go OUT. SoSuave is swamped with AFCs who are virgins yet give other guys advice on how to get laid...WTF
ASF may be crammed with too much robotic nonsense, but after meeting people from both communities, I have to say that at least ASFers go OUT. SoSuave is swamped with AFCs who are virgins yet give other guys advice on how to get laid...WTF
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.