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Been reading some chick forums and look at this gem of a post. They call it “multitasking” or “multidating”. Can’t make this **** up! And then they wonder why guys won’t commit to them.

We often debate women’s strategies or omissions when we’re getting to know them, geeesh.

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The moment I stopped evaluating him is the moment he lost interest and I got hurt

We went on probably 4 high effort dates, he started losing interest after the 4th but we ended up on 7 ish before I asked him where we stood and he called it off. Up until date 3 I was multidating but had to break it off because the other guy wanted to be exclusive, I wasn't sure about him, and I didn't want to stop seeing this one. My energy shifted after that in the sense that I now focused all my energy on this guy who even from the beginning when I was evaluating I was concerned he was less communicative than the other one. I now went from being more elusive and communicative since I had high standards as to when I was taking calls and didn't care if he dropped off to consistent and clearly excited to see him. I noticed a change in energy almost immediately. It also put me in a position where I started missing red flags and overlooking signs of losing interest. If I were multidating I would have let him drop off the face of the earth, but once I got invested I prolonged it by reaching out to him occasionally. I still tried to follow most fds rules and he initiated more than I did but there was a drop off in enthusiasm, prioritization of me, and consistency from before. He even admitted to me he wasn't prioritizing me and tried to step up but when I asked him where we stood he admitted he was just too busy to and I deserve better and it ended. And I got hurt. Bad.

Anyways probably for the best because a guy shouldn't be testing your boundaries anyways and there were red flags like inviting himself to my place to make out the 4th and 5th date (to be fair he didn't try for sex but it's just weird and rude), and saying he had no social media and never had social media when I found him on Instagram and a hidden Facebook with pictures of his ex still up. I brushed it off as an old account and he barely followed anyone but multidating me would not have tried to rationalize that at all. Probably he wasn't even over his ex and just dating to try and get over her.

Ladies never try to hold onto a man who is changing their communication style on you. Best case scenario they got busy (his excuse) worst case scenerio they lost interest. I don't think the issue was me reaching out to confirm plans or occasionally calling him but that I stopped evaluating his level of effort and got burned.
 

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This seems like a woman past her prime dating two subpar options.

First guy is a prototypical nice guy. Offers her exclusivity after 3 dates.

Second guy seems weird. Doesn't try for sex at her place on a 4th or 5th date.
 

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This seems like a woman past her prime dating two subpar options.

First guy is a prototypical nice guy. Offers her exclusivity after 3 dates.

Second guy seems weird. Doesn't try for sex at her place on a 4th or 5th date.
It’s FDS, the most militant feminist bassackwards site on Reddit. It’s made up of ugly, bitter, leftover women with TONS AND TONS of baggage. They don’t hand out advice, they sabotage each other.
 

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They don’t hand out advice, they sabotage each other.
Sounds like women to me.

It’s FDS, the most militant feminist bassackwards site on Reddit. It’s made up of ugly, bitter, leftover women with TONS AND TONS of baggage.
I had never heard of FDS until recently. If it is how you describe it, then that's bad. It seems like my assessment that the woman was past her prime was accurate.
 

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@Pierce.Manhammer

I'm impressed you were able to understand all that!

Frankly I can't make heads or tales what the hell she's talking about except she "multi-dated" up until the third (or was it fourth) date.

The below for example. Can you or anyone translate this for me?

I went from being more elusive and communicative since I had high standards as to when I was taking calls and didn't care if he dropped off to consistent and clearly excited to see him.

One can't be elusive AND communicative at the same time, you're either one or the other, and what the heck does it have to do with having high standards?

SMFH. Lol
 

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@Pierce.Manhammer

I'm impressed you were able to understand all that!

Frankly I can't make heads or tales what the hell she's talking about except she "multi-dated" up until the third (or was it fourth) date.

The below for example. Can you or anyone translate this for me?

I went from being more elusive and communicative since I had high standards as to when I was taking calls and didn't care if he dropped off to consistent and clearly excited to see him.

One can't be elusive AND communicative at the same time, you're either one or the other, and what the heck does it have to do with having high standards?

SMFH. Lol
First off, it's a poorly written sentence: " I now went from being more elusive and communicative since I had high standards as to when I was taking calls and didn't care if he dropped off to consistent and clearly excited to see him"

You have to cut out the middle to somewhat understand it. " I now went from being more elusive and communicative to consistent and clearly excited to see him"

At first she was being manipulative by being inconsistent in her interactions, being elusive when the guy wanted to talk sex or bang, and "communicating" a bunch of cr@p he didn't care about. That's where the "elusive and communicative" paradox comes in. Then she started being overly attentive, it seems, but the guy was probably halfway checked out at that point given her initial behavior, and then with no sex from that point onwards, the guy bailed. (if there was sex, it probably was reluctant sex on her part).
 

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It’s actually mind-boggling. I mean we know a lot of this stuff instinctually but to have a lens on it in the wild is something different - to read it is a trip.

What’s funny is that to a post it’s clear that they are lying to men, and that they have very low views of men to begin with. What’s funny is that they’re basically copying most of the red pill and PUA stuff but in reverse. There’s truly a difference between male psyches and female psyches…

I guess it’s true, that we become that which we hate the most sometimes.
 

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First off, it's a poorly written sentence: " I now went from being more elusive and communicative since I had high standards as to when I was taking calls and didn't care if he dropped off to consistent and clearly excited to see him"

You have to cut out the middle to somewhat understand it. " I now went from being more elusive and communicative to consistent and clearly excited to see him"

At first she was being manipulative by being inconsistent in her interactions, being elusive when the guy wanted to talk sex or bang, and "communicating" a bunch of cr@p he didn't care about. That's where the "elusive and communicative" paradox comes in. Then she started being overly attentive, it seems, but the guy was probably halfway checked out at that point given her initial behavior, and then with no sex from that point onwards, the guy bailed. (if there was sex, it probably was reluctant sex on her part).
Thanks @Billy, sounds plausible.

I see these types of threads on Loveshack too.

Bottom line: Such women are insecure and do NOT trust men.

They believe they have to be constantly on guard, walls up, behaving elusively.

"Matching men's energy/effort" is a huge strategy which typically backfires on them because it's contrived and a poor use/understanding of Game (female Game).

Otherwise men will lose interest and dump, not realizing the reason they're getting dumped is precisely because of this behavior.

After which they scream the guy was stringing them along the entire time, and he's a d-bag, b*stard and any other derogatory name they can think of.

"Scrote"? Lol
 
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"Matching men's energy/effort" is a huge strategy which typically backfires on them because it's contrived and a poor use/understanding of Game (female Game).

Otherwise men will lose interest and dump, not realizing the reason they're getting dumped is precisely because of this behavior.
Not really the elusive behavior. Some guys like me, don't like to be constantly texting. So we appreciate it when girls recognize that, and then follow our behavior.

However, men WILL dump you if your weird about a guy coming over to your place to chill after 5 dates. I'm gonna go ahead and assume these girls are telling each other to withhold sex, and demand exclusively first. Cuz that's what "high quality" girls do.
 

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Not really the elusive behavior. Some guys like me, don't like to be constantly texting. So we appreciate it when girls recognize that, and then follow our behavior.
That's totally fair @Velasco but what I see happening is women aren't "matching" men's efforts, they intentionally withhold effort expecting the men to chase regardless.

THAT is how they determine whether he's truly interested, if they (men) chase regardless of how elusive they (the women) are behaving.

For example, on Loveshack.org, recently there was a thread created by a woman complaining that the man she's dating is great on dates, attentive, affectionate etc, all good.

In between he rarely texts. Her definition of rarely? Once or twice a day! Check in texts basically,

This pisses her off and "confuses" her.

She feels if he were truly interested he'd be texting more than once or twice a day and engaging her, asking questions etc.

So to punish him, instead of matching his effort and responding in a timely manner, or gasp talking to him about it, she waits hours to reply or won't reply until the next day or even at all.

Then complains he doesn't text enough, it's all HIS fault because he's not meeting her totally unrealistic expectations.

Even though again their in-person dates are awesome, they see each other twice a week.

It's entitlement plain and simple. Combined with insecurity and lack of trust in general..

Jmo based on what I read and witness on line and in real.
 
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So to punish him, instead of matching his effort and responding in a timely manner, or gasp talking to him about it, she waits hours to reply or won't reply until the next day or even at all.
Yea that's fine. She's "punishing" him by doing exactly what he wants her to do lol.
Even though again their in-person dates are awesome, they see each other twice a week.
Ok so everything's Gucci then lol.
 

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I was going to say who could possibly doubt that in 2022, but then I remember we have these delusional guys here lol.
 

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Yea that's fine. She's "punishing" him by doing exactly what he wants her to do lol.
Lol, fair point and possibly.

Nevertheless, she's not acting genuine, her behavior is contrived, disingenuous, poor Game and will backfire on her, I've seen it happen.

For men too when they Game women too hard.

Ok so everything's Gucci then lol.
One would think but she's unhappy - insecure and anxious because he doesn't meet her stringent texting requirements.
 

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Nevertheless, she's not acting genuine, her behavior is contrived, disingenuous, poor Game and will backfire on her, I've seen it happen.
Hmm I guess that's typically how's it's gone early on in my relationships. All games and sh1t, till she falls in love.
One would think but she's unhappy - insecure and anxious because he doesn't meet her stringent texting requirements
Where I as a man want her to be ;)
 

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Hmm I guess that's typically how's it's gone early on in my relationships. All games and sh1t, till she falls in love.

Where I as a man want her to be ;)
Oh I agree, that's the irony!

If/when a man is all over her, giving her the attention SHE claims to want, she would lose interest so fast, I've seen that happen too more times than not.

I'm not judging, as a young woman dating, late teens, early 20s, I'd play these games myself. Sometimes they worked, however I recall one man I really liked dumped me because of it.

But then I grew up, became more secure within myself, stopped the games and began acting more real and genuine, and my relationships were much better.
I recently got married.

Second point. Never understood why men prefer a woman to be anxious and insecure.

Or perhaps I do. Uncertainty and anxiety are great aphrodisiacs and can make for some extremely HOT sex, so it makes sense. ;)
 

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What man in his right mind would entertain even the thought of asking out such women, let alone spending time/money dating them? :rolleyes:
I mean, it's never been easier to unload, with the high availability of sex workers and porn. If you want company, get a dog.
The only logical conclusion is that the men are even more messed up than these FDS women.
 
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