"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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First times are only once

crowolf

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Picture this:

You meet a 26 year old girl/woman. You build some form of a relationship. Intimate, sexual, romantic. A bit of everything. You are not exclusive because it's too early. For now you simply enjoy spending time together and having fun. Especially having fun, passionately...

But you know what? She has already tried most of the things a woman can try being in a relationship. And you can't really surprise her that much. There is nothing that exciting left to try. Perhaps she was in a 4 year relationship. And tried it all - sexual stuff, romantic stuff. Every experience is connected with a memory to her ex. Or someone else.

Sure, you are a different man with your own way of doing things. But however effective your seduction is, the depth of it, along with the connection, may not have the capacity to be that profound. You can't leave the same traces, as if you are the first one doing these things with her.

If this actually makes sense, and is somewhat true, are we all doomed?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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BackInTheGame78

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You can always be far far better in the bedroom than anyone she has ever had before.

That's your choice whether you put in the work physically, at the gym and in learning techniques to make that happen.

It's the biggest differentiator you have between yourself and other men and something most women have poor experiences with.
 

crowolf

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You can always be far far better in the bedroom than anyone she has ever had before.

That's your choice whether you put in the work physically, at the gym and in learning techniques to make that happen.

It's the biggest differentiator you have between yourself and other men and something most women have poor experiences with.
That might be so.

But let's say it's not all about being better in the bedroom. If you want to build a lasting relationship with a woman, there has to be more than that, right?

Even the bed stuff, in my opinion, has a lot to do with your connection with her. If it's shallow, mostly based on pure physical attraction, I don't think this can compare with the fuller experience.

Also, any other guy has access to the techniques. Recently I started reading a book about Kama Sutra. And half of the things there are not even about physical techniques, but rather how to make the whole experience richer.

But my issue is - can you really outperform her mind imprints of "big" first time events in relationships?

Or maybe I am overanalyzing it, and women don't see it that way, but rather feel it anew, flooded with emotion each new time, with each new guy.

Regardless, "damaged goods" is a real thing. And this is somewhat related.
 

BaronOfHair

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@crowolf "If this actually makes sense, and is somewhat true, are we all doomed?"

In the sense that nothing ever turns out EXACTLY as we'd anticipated/would prefer, yeah. Label that "doomed", if you wish
 

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Picture this:

You meet a 26 year old girl/woman. You build some form of a relationship. Intimate, sexual, romantic. A bit of everything. You are not exclusive because it's too early. For now you simply enjoy spending time together and having fun. Especially having fun, passionately...

But you know what? She has already tried most of the things a woman can try being in a relationship. And you can't really surprise her that much. There is nothing that exciting left to try. Perhaps she was in a 4 year relationship. And tried it all - sexual stuff, romantic stuff. Every experience is connected with a memory to her ex. Or someone else.

Sure, you are a different man with your own way of doing things. But however effective your seduction is, the depth of it, along with the connection, may not have the capacity to be that profound. You can't leave the same traces, as if you are the first one doing these things with her.

If this actually makes sense, and is somewhat true, are we all doomed?
Accept the things you cannot change, change the things that you can.You can't be her first everything.

That doesn't mean you can't be her best experience, her deepest connection, or the man she ultimately chooses to build a life with.
If you're constantly competing with her past, you've already lost sight of the present.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Plinco

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Picture this:

You meet a 26 year old girl/woman. You build some form of a relationship. Intimate, sexual, romantic. A bit of everything. You are not exclusive because it's too early. For now you simply enjoy spending time together and having fun. Especially having fun, passionately...

But you know what? She has already tried most of the things a woman can try being in a relationship. And you can't really surprise her that much. There is nothing that exciting left to try. Perhaps she was in a 4 year relationship. And tried it all - sexual stuff, romantic stuff. Every experience is connected with a memory to her ex. Or someone else.

Sure, you are a different man with your own way of doing things. But however effective your seduction is, the depth of it, along with the connection, may not have the capacity to be that profound. You can't leave the same traces, as if you are the first one doing these things with her.

If this actually makes sense, and is somewhat true, are we all doomed?
Everybody's different. It's her first time to be with you. Don't compare yourself to other people and just be the best version of you.
 
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