Notes: The chick is a virgin and doesn't really trust guys. She asked how many partners have I had and I gave her a bs response such as do animals count lol. She then said she thinks I've had 8 partners lol. I took her to a date party and we drank and went to a club. She danced with me the whole time and even stayed with me when her friends left. I used a lot of kino while dancing with her, so that's great. We went to eat afterwards and she told me how she really doesn't trust guys <_<. I didn't want to kiss her or anything cause of her reaction, but we held hands walking back to her place. She said she had a wonderful time and we parted, so what I do next. I'm a straight up noobie.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
First date was a success, now what do I do
- Thread starter JPlaya
- Start date
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Upside
Senior Don Juan
Kiss her. Do it now. For the love of god this will open so many doors with you.
PS Beware the "doesn't trust guys" thing. First of all, if you have sex with her, she WILL want exclusivity with you considering....she's a virgin who doesn't trust guys.
Second, you may or may not run into the problem where she will have to tag along or get updates on where you are like if you are going to a party or whatever just to make sure you don't do anything silly.
But whatever this is moot point since you aren't there yet.
Kiss her. Now.
PS Beware the "doesn't trust guys" thing. First of all, if you have sex with her, she WILL want exclusivity with you considering....she's a virgin who doesn't trust guys.
Second, you may or may not run into the problem where she will have to tag along or get updates on where you are like if you are going to a party or whatever just to make sure you don't do anything silly.
But whatever this is moot point since you aren't there yet.
Kiss her. Now.
At least go for the cheek kiss. I don't understand why this is so hard, but I've had 20 years practice. If she likes you she will like your kissing her cheek. That leads to the lip kiss. Never rush the French kiss, possibly the most intimate of all acts.
Kiss her when you first see her and when you last see her.
Kiss her when you first see her and when you last see her.
SoSuave666
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I don't think there is a single girl out there that trusts men. I don't know if it's just me, but any girl who I regularly hang around with has male trust issues. Whether or not they actually have trust issues is another story. I think it's just something they say to make us want them to trust us...if that makes sense. They are kind of playing the victim and making us out to be the savior. Beware of all that. Even a virgin will fvck you if she wants to, it may just take a couple more dates than normal (also beware of a girl above the age of 21 saying she is a virgin).
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Eternal_water
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err, are you saying go from a cheek kiss to a proper kiss in the same few seconds or a cheek kiss alone, and a proper one at a later date?bigneil said:
5string
Master Don Juan
Mount her! WTF are you waiting for?
Iceberg
Master Don Juan
You should read the 2,000 other posts that have already answered this question.JPlaya said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Krueg
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A virgin? I didn't know they still made those. 
If the feeling is right and you think things are going well, go for it. Theres been times where I went in for a kiss and the girl moved out of the way completely rejecting my advanced... Oh well You now know where her interest level is.
If the feeling is right and you think things are going well, go for it. Theres been times where I went in for a kiss and the girl moved out of the way completely rejecting my advanced... Oh well
You now know where her interest level is.