"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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First date problem (hurry)

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Ok I've got a date in a few hours with a girl I met online. We are planning to go have a few drinks and talk. This was her idea. The thing is she is only 20 so bars are out of the question. I guess we could just go grab some drinks and go park somewhere. We have a few parks that people go to but I don't want to worry about her getting caught since she is underage. What are your guys thoughts? Btw I live in a small town so not much to do.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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"Come over for a movie and a back massage"

Same line got me laid last night. Truth

She'll be happy
then you can even say "You'll get one too if you're lucky"
 

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Mr.SomeoneElse said:
"Come over for a movie and a back massage"

Same line got me laid last night. Truth

She'll be happy
then you can even say "You'll get one too if you're lucky"

this . all day. everyday. will get you laid lol.
 

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I'm not sure it's as easy as inviting them over for the first date.

That's against general consensus.

Take her to a restaurant and she can get wine normally.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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JohnChops

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bigneil said:
I'm not sure it's as easy as inviting them over for the first date.

That's against general consensus.

Take her to a restaurant and she can get wine normally.

or do something that involves action, dinner on the first date?! what are you crazy ?!
 

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bigneil said:
I'm not sure it's as easy as inviting them over for the first date.

That's against general consensus.

Take her to a restaurant and she can get wine normally.
Maybe for your age group
But I dont know man, its been working out so well for me.
I cant remember the last time ive gone on dates.
The times that ive taken a woman out, have been days that ive just wanted company.
I'm going to do a write up on what I do and we can see what you guys think of it.
 

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a first date should be a natural part of what you do everyday. If you are the type that goes to listen to live concerts a lot that should be a first date. if you are the type that likes to go to comedy shows that should be your first date

if you don't have a good first date idea, it's a very good sign you are a loser if you can't figure out something to do outside of take a chick to a restaurant.

**** go bowling go roller skating, go shoot pool, do something. do what you normally do just bring her.
 
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