"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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BackInTheGame78

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No more expensive dates for the ones you are seeing.


Netflix and chill at your place.

If they are into you, that is all it will take.
If they are not? Kick 'em to the curb.
Quality women typically aren't going for that. Hobags might.
Depends what you want.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Depends on where you live I guess. If they "aren't going for that" then I am "letting them go away" Nobody keeps getting $100 dates from me. In fact, very few women ever have, and I seem to do OK.
I'm not talking about $100 dates. I am talking about Netflix and Chill. I don't do $100 dates either.
 

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It works for me.

My last GF, I spent $7 mini-golfing on the first date. She lost and had to buy ice cream after.

Next date was a drive down to a neighboring community at a lake. Spent the day getting ice cream, walking and touring. Total cost - negligible.

3rd date she came to my house to hang out and watch Netflix, maybe we took a quad ride, whatever. Simple stuff. Sex that date.

She was a quality woman, tight morals, etc.

If they like you, they want to be around you no matter what you are doing. I am a high value man, clean living, great body, high status career, financially sound. Great personality, lots of fun. A woman with high interest doesn't need elaborate dates.....and I don't give it to them.

I AM a believer in the three date rule. Not necessarily hard and fast to it, but as a rule of thumb. If , in her late 40's, she doesn't have enough interest in me to have sex by the third date, I generally move on. Stop trying at least, My time is valuable to me. I lose interest, and if they want to hang out, they can contact me.



So, my experience is as originally posted:

If you have had a couple dates, keep the future dates simple, no/lo cost
No more expensive dates for the ones you are seeing.


If they are into you, that is all it will take.
If they are not? Kick 'em to the curb.
I am talking on a first date with a girl you have never met. Obviously on a 3rd or even 2nd date all of that stuff is cool...
 

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It works for me.

My last GF, I spent $7 mini-golfing on the first date. She lost and had to buy ice cream after.

Next date was a drive down to a neighboring community at a lake. Spent the day getting ice cream, walking and touring. Total cost - negligible.

3rd date she came to my house to hang out and watch Netflix, maybe we took a quad ride, whatever. Simple stuff. Sex that date.

She was a quality woman, tight morals, etc.

If they like you, they want to be around you no matter what you are doing. I am a high value man, clean living, great body, high status career, financially sound. Great personality, lots of fun. A woman with high interest doesn't need elaborate dates.....and I don't give it to them.

I AM a believer in the three date rule. Not necessarily hard and fast to it, but as a rule of thumb. If , in her late 40's, she doesn't have enough interest in me to have sex by the third date, I generally move on. Stop trying at least, My time is valuable to me. I lose interest, and if they want to hang out, they can contact me.



So, my experience is as originally posted:

If you have had a couple dates, keep the future dates simple, no/lo cost
No more expensive dates for the ones you are seeing.


If they are into you, that is all it will take.
If they are not? Kick 'em to the curb.
That's great - love the advice man. I definitely need to be more frugal about my spending on dates, especially first dates. Hey, it's all a learning process. I have another date this weekend and I for sure won't be spending $100. You make a great point "If they like you, they want to be around you no matter what you are doing."
 
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