"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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The debate about paying for dinners....
If she obviously made herself up to the nines then the man pays, straight up. And vice versa and all in between approximately to each taste. I say that because first date and she was done up...like tight shirt, little shorts, tight package.

I mean...I was sitting there thinking wow this bird just waxed, lotioned, didn't eat all day, heels, hair, etc,
Time consuming shyt, and all the products they use. And I didn't even shave my 5 o'clock shadow. So there's showing effort

Date was cool. Laughs, kino, new venue, higher kino, cab, higher kino. Etc...

In 30 minutes I found out if she was down to keep me around, or shall I say, she was not going to let me pass by. ..and then that's where I turned on my fun meter and took the ball.

An idea of what first dates should emulate and add upon.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I think that if you suggested to go to have dinner and it is a first date, ok, then you can pay if you like her. However, in this day and age, she should offer to pay her half as well.
She took three hours to get dressed? so what? you're the prize, remember? she should put some effort.

You did not even kiss her, right?
 

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A first date should never be dinner...drinks only. Wasting time and money on a woman that I have no idea if she is worth it, along with forced boring conversation isn't my thing.

Did you fvck her? If not I'd refrain from saying it was "great". I've had plenty of those before and a second date never happened.
 
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A first date should never be dinner...drinks only.
Drinks can rack up price too.

There has to be some activity going on apart from just drinks for me to have fun, I know its a date but I have to enjoy myself, so my text usually goes:

"Great, we'll do Monday. We'll go do XYZ. I'll get tickets, you get the drinks."

This sets the tone that I control the night, I am a gentleman but not a pushover.


For first dates, I pay the higher bill but she has to pay something. If it's dinner, you pay for food and desert, she pays for bottle of wine, like that.

I have to make sure she's willing to do for me as much as/even more than I'm willing to do for her, that's part of my screening process.
 

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I live in a city were we have more festivals then days of the year... so there is always something going on. Dinner as a first date is fine... you don't have to spend a lot of money... there are always new mom and pop places opening up that have great deals and you can turn it into an adventure... "Let's discover this new place together."
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I live in a city were we have more festivals then days of the year... so there is always something going on. Dinner as a first date is fine... you don't have to spend a lot of money... there are always new mom and pop places opening up that have great deals and you can turn it into an adventure... "Let's discover this new place together."
I used to love taking them to a cool bar that had pool and/or darts...instead of sitting having a boring interview style date you are having fun, competing and flirting. Much higher success rate of sexual escalation with these. And a lot cheaper.
 

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I didn't f close. We started to mess around and she liked my enthusiasm but she stopped me. But kept saying, I know I know, we can do that later, but not right now.

She called me today to say she had fun and we did connect right away so...

Overall, I think first dates should be just drinks, and no more than 30 minutes for dudes to decide if it's a dead end.
 

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i also like a bar idea, especially if there is dancing ****ing love to dance. However, drinks doesn't work if you're dating in the 18-20 year old range, unless she has a fake id.
 
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