"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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The debate about paying for dinners....
If she obviously made herself up to the nines then the man pays, straight up. And vice versa and all in between approximately to each taste. I say that because first date and she was done up...like tight shirt, little shorts, tight package.

I mean...I was sitting there thinking wow this bird just waxed, lotioned, didn't eat all day, heels, hair, etc,
Time consuming shyt, and all the products they use. And I didn't even shave my 5 o'clock shadow. So there's showing effort

Date was cool. Laughs, kino, new venue, higher kino, cab, higher kino. Etc...

In 30 minutes I found out if she was down to keep me around, or shall I say, she was not going to let me pass by. ..and then that's where I turned on my fun meter and took the ball.

An idea of what first dates should emulate and add upon.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I think that if you suggested to go to have dinner and it is a first date, ok, then you can pay if you like her. However, in this day and age, she should offer to pay her half as well.
She took three hours to get dressed? so what? you're the prize, remember? she should put some effort.

You did not even kiss her, right?
 

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A first date should never be dinner...drinks only. Wasting time and money on a woman that I have no idea if she is worth it, along with forced boring conversation isn't my thing.

Did you fvck her? If not I'd refrain from saying it was "great". I've had plenty of those before and a second date never happened.
 
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A first date should never be dinner...drinks only.
Drinks can rack up price too.

There has to be some activity going on apart from just drinks for me to have fun, I know its a date but I have to enjoy myself, so my text usually goes:

"Great, we'll do Monday. We'll go do XYZ. I'll get tickets, you get the drinks."

This sets the tone that I control the night, I am a gentleman but not a pushover.


For first dates, I pay the higher bill but she has to pay something. If it's dinner, you pay for food and desert, she pays for bottle of wine, like that.

I have to make sure she's willing to do for me as much as/even more than I'm willing to do for her, that's part of my screening process.
 

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I live in a city were we have more festivals then days of the year... so there is always something going on. Dinner as a first date is fine... you don't have to spend a lot of money... there are always new mom and pop places opening up that have great deals and you can turn it into an adventure... "Let's discover this new place together."
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I live in a city were we have more festivals then days of the year... so there is always something going on. Dinner as a first date is fine... you don't have to spend a lot of money... there are always new mom and pop places opening up that have great deals and you can turn it into an adventure... "Let's discover this new place together."
I used to love taking them to a cool bar that had pool and/or darts...instead of sitting having a boring interview style date you are having fun, competing and flirting. Much higher success rate of sexual escalation with these. And a lot cheaper.
 

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I didn't f close. We started to mess around and she liked my enthusiasm but she stopped me. But kept saying, I know I know, we can do that later, but not right now.

She called me today to say she had fun and we did connect right away so...

Overall, I think first dates should be just drinks, and no more than 30 minutes for dudes to decide if it's a dead end.
 

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i also like a bar idea, especially if there is dancing ****ing love to dance. However, drinks doesn't work if you're dating in the 18-20 year old range, unless she has a fake id.
 
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