Colossus said:
Gaylan-
I could barely understand you with that big tube steak in your mouth, but let me enlighten you:
Lmao, another pathetic insult. Its always funny to me how guys have big mouths online, but never say this crap to my face in the real world. Sure you may respond by saying you would, but Ive had many fiery debates in my day, and dudes never get their knickers bunched like you that they lash out.
Most are smart enough to know that such behavior makes their position look weak. But I guess the internet is different, and its about who can puff their chest the most. But at the end of the day, internet complaints arent gonna get things done like real world activism. Its ok though that youre so bothered by different viewpoints that you need to resort to acting like a kindergartner.
The AE forum is a place for rants, raves, and tongue-in-cheek threads. Had I really had systematic and cogent case to make, I would have done in in the MM forum or on my own blog. I merely wanted to point out how ludicrous and over-the-top this parody video was in response to a music vid that is not even quasi-misogynous.
haha, as if you really had a decent case to make. It was hypocritical complaints like I pointed out in my initial post. You cannot whine about feminists calling you a bigot, and then use bigoted language. Its like someone b!tching about supposed race baitors, but then using racist slurs against someone. And dude, just because you dont think the original video is misogynous does not mean there arent many who perceive it that way.
Thats no different than whats happening to guys complaining in the comment thread of the parody video. They are being told its not misandrist. But just because someone else doesnt perceive it that way, doesnt mean their view of it is incorrect. So Im telling you the same thing Id tell the feminists in the comments of that video...stop being immature biased little whiners who have the inability to see things through someone elses eyes.
How in the world do any of you expect to combat gender problems if both sides are constantly trying to tell the other that they are imagining things?
Why don't I respond to your retorts with more substance?? Because I think you are a worthless troll, and arguably a female posing as a male. I can spend my free time responding to posts that interest me, writing new stuff on my own blog, or reading something productive. Unlike your vaginosis-ridden as$ I genuinely don't have time to invest in a multi-page p!ssing match on something relatively insignificant.
I wouldnt expect a immature emotional man to be able to have a structured and mature debate on this issue. All you can do is try to insult my character. Its all rather funny to me. Whenever people disagree with each other on this forum, all losers like you can do is seek to emasculate them with insults about vagina, gays, or them being a female. Ive seen it happen to backbreaker, SocialLeper, Zarky, and others. Some of you really need to grow up.
Do you really want to debate? I don't think you have the education, critical thinking, or the analytical reasoning powers to debate me on an even playing field. And you can take that as a challenge. I think you would fail because you lack the perception to even ascertain my level of seriousness in this thread. Maybe you're a good guy (girl) in real life, but on this forum, you are a troll, and a fag. Why do you think you get blasted all the time by mods, newbies, and veterans alike? It's because you're being a contrarian little troll and your arguments have been disproven already.
So I'll let you get back to nuzzling feminist's buttholes and gargling man spackle. We'll all be waiting for your profound reply.
BRING IT ON THEN. Instead of insulting my education or reasoning abilities, why dont you freaking bring it. Dont keep insulting me, running away from my viewpoints without directly addressing them, and talking about how you "dont have the time". If you can talk all that bunk when Ive directly challenged your positions, then back up your big talk and lets have a mature debate. Stop acting like a damn grade schooler. Be a man, and dont behave like an internet troll.
Its funny how you call me a troll, when I wasnt the one insulting people in my initial posts. I made valid arguments on how a man should behave when combating feminists. You will never be taken seriously with the way you behave. All you will have is a forum or a blog, because no one listens to immature, insulting, whiny hypocrites. You want to counter the worst of the feminists?
Then take a page out of the Danger book and learn to debate with someone the way you would in real life. With rational, logic, and without insults. You know, by not behaving like a false bravado internet troll. Because I know for certain you wouldnt dare conduct yourslef like this in a real live debate....because itd cause you to lose all your credibility...the same way feminists who sit and insult people have little credibility.
And who gives a damn if I have detractors? I have had noobies, veterans and a couple mods agree with my posts across threads on this forum...so whats your point? No one has people agree with them all the time. Ive not trying to subscribe to some kind of group think. I have my own opinions, and some folks agree and disagree with them. Fact of the matter is that when people disagree with me, my first inclination isnt to insult them and run around arguments for several posts.
Bokanovsky said:
No, you didn't. There was absolutely nothing "credible" about your arguments, as evidenced by the reaction that you have received. You are being ridiculed because your arguments are ridiculous...simple as that.
Dont gimme that garbage. All it is, is that some of you are so emotionally tied to your arguments that you can only lash out when someone dares to challenge them. I never initially disagree with someone by insulting them, yet thats all some of you can do.
And you guys really expect the world to change and for your voices to be heard? They NEVER will if you behave like that. Im not the only one saying this. Some of the most respected guys in the manosphere and PUA community say the SAME EXACT THINGS. That to be taken seriously and combat the worst of feminists, you cannot play into their hand or act immaturely.
How is that incorrect or lacking credibility? Whats so lacking about telling someone that its hypocritical to argue against being called a bigot, yet in their next breath use bigoted language?
Please directly answer these questions. No running backwards and telling me how Im wrong without explaining why.
Answer the questions directly and explain to me why Im wrong and why you disagree. Tell me why Im wrong for stating that men should behave better than the worst of feminists and not stoop down to their level. For once Bokanovsky, how about you explain your position without the lame little one or two liners you always use.