"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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@Plinco

try this as an exercise pre chat.
Go on YT and watch complications of The Simpsons scenes , McBain and Duff Man would be my recent favorites . That will get your mind into a creative /witty zone.. pre chats.

then start thinking about Value.
Sexy value hits via chat. The objective is to relax her and arouse her , get some lols on the other side but get her feeling sexy. Ie grab her interest and then ramp her interest.

And also a principle to strive for is
“brevity is the soul of wit”
Short responses in general are best.
1 liner sentences.
3 word funny replies .
Boil it down to one word + emoji even.

Don’t answer or address everything she says or asks. Just the bits that will serve you.

Also - a very handy technique is Cold Reading.
This can be very funny and is great for leading convos to where you want them to go.

Other principles to write down on a notepad.

“Don’t ask questions , make statements and commands”

If you can’t translate the question into a statement / assumption … just drop the question mark ‘?’ at the end. It comes off as more dominant imo.

little things can go a long way.

don’t be shy about expressing you desire for what you see in her pics either. Just not sure directly /crass/ vulgar.
Hints, Innuedo, imply things is best.
Chats can get very saucy this way. Which creates momentum her side, if she is getting turned on or aroused she’ll be keener to want to meet you.

I love to use innuendo/ analogies( to saucy sex stuff.)
This is the lingo of chicks.
Nicknames. slang, Double talk. W0m@nese etc
Sprinkle those all in ..liberally throughout.

if I do this in a certain sequence sometimes (by fluke ,of a pattern of things) … I’ve had chicks soft close me and flick me their number very fast .

these are some common underlying principles of Online Game / Text Game imo. That seem to be across all the successes to me.

the subtext to my comms is - I’m a dominant , sexy and sexual dude. And also I’m pretty busy (talking to other women). A ‘F-boy/player frame ‘ basically.

cheers James
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I get very few matches on these so I want to maximize my chances. If it doesn't work it doesn't work. I'm going to continue approaching anyway.

I want to respond with "I'm doing great. Hopefully you are too."

I'm thinking about how to number close, maybe with "If you like to see movies, I think I know a good one right now."
 

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I get very few matches on these so I want to maximize my chances. If it doesn't work it doesn't work. I'm going to continue approaching anyway.

I want to respond with "I'm doing great. Hopefully you are too."

I'm thinking about how to number close, maybe with "If you like to see movies, I think I know a good one right now."
Nooooooo.........
You grabbed the chick's attention in your profile and early message.
Keep your messages much shorter. Still ask a light question.....it keeps the convo going. But after a few texts back and forth, just say:
"It seems like we have a good vibe so far in text. Let's grab a drink and see how we vibe in person. I know a cool dive bar at xyx.....what evenings are you free this week "?
Thats it. Literally.
Keep it much shorter and to the point. Its all about getting dates, seducing the woman and have her thinking about you in an anxiously excited mode when you are not giving her attention all the time after those first few dates.
You say you dont get many matches. Don't let that flow over to being needy and attention seeking in your messages. Or in person.
If I'm single and dating, I'll have numerous options. They dont get 3 page texts from me because 1. I don't have time 2. They haven't done anything to earn that type of attention from me.
Keep it simple. Keep it light. Keep it fun..
 

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Nooooooo.........
You grabbed the chick's attention in your profile and early message.
Keep your messages much shorter. Still ask a light question.....it keeps the convo going. But after a few texts back and forth, just say:
"It seems like we have a good vibe so far in text. Let's grab a drink and see how we vibe in person. I know a cool dive bar at xyx.....what evenings are you free this week "?
Thats it. Literally.
Keep it much shorter and to the point. Its all about getting dates, seducing the woman and have her thinking about you in an anxiously excited mode when you are not giving her attention all the time after those first few dates.
You say you dont get many matches. Don't let that flow over to being needy and attention seeking in your messages. Or in person.
If I'm single and dating, I'll have numerous options. They dont get 3 page texts from me because 1. I don't have time 2. They haven't done anything to earn that type of attention from me.
Keep it simple. Keep it light. Keep it fun..
"Great. Making advertisements for my business"
"How are you"

I feel like I should say something more flirty
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Plinco - just know she doesn’t care about your business (yet). She doesn’t know you.

try this line “ I just gots to know one thing….”

she’ll reply,

then follow it up with something funny. A big statement. Gotta engage her emotions to keep her interest ime.
 
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Plinco - just know she doesn’t care about your business (yet). She doesn’t know you.

try this line “ I just gots to know one thing….”

she’ll reply,

then follow it up with something funny. A big statement. Gotta engage her emotions to keep her interest ime.

"I just gots to know one thing..."

When she replies "What's that?"

"Do you suck d!ck for free??" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 

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I've replied with

"great :blushed smiley"
"I'm making some advertising for my business"
"How's your day been"

Looking at it, I'm not impressed with the way I replied.
 

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I get very few matches on these so I want to maximize my chances. If it doesn't work it doesn't work. I'm going to continue approaching anyway.

I want to respond with "I'm doing great. Hopefully you are too."

I'm thinking about how to number close, maybe with "If you like to see movies, I think I know a good one right now."
Got your message on Discord and came to take a look...

So, first things first, you know something's wrong with this. That's why you posted it for criticism. My question to you has been, and always will be: what do YOU think you did wrong?

In this case, you responded to a 1-word message with a 2-sentence mini-paragraph...

Remember the concept of mirroring? That applies to text, too. I'll actually have some examples up soon to show you and others what a conversation on a dating app should look like. Because the goal is to take the conversation OFF the app.

Similar to my general opener when I approach women, my general opener on the apps is something along the lines of "Hey how's it going gorgeous". And I know, we've had this conversation before about how you have trouble delivering a compliment unless you fully believe it.

Well, start faking it then.

A compliment, followed by some banter and light background information (I usually ask for the Instagram so I can make sure they're real and see how they look more recently), is all that's really necessary before you start asking for phone numbers and planning dates.

Lucky for you, she seems exceptionally interested...she messaged you first, and even after your "excessive" reply, she still replied with 3 messages in a row.

I've replied with

"great :blushed smiley"
"I'm making some advertising for my business"
"How's your day been"

Looking at it, I'm not impressed with the way I replied.
I was going to provide recommendations, but now you just have to wait...

Simply ask her if she's free this weekend, grab her number, then plan a date.
 

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Got your message on Discord and came to take a look...

So, first things first, you know something's wrong with this. That's why you posted it for criticism. My question to you has been, and always will be: what do YOU think you did wrong?

In this case, you responded to a 1-word message with a 2-sentence mini-paragraph...

Remember the concept of mirroring? That applies to text, too. I'll actually have some examples up soon to show you and others what a conversation on a dating app should look like. Because the goal is to take the conversation OFF the app.

Similar to my general opener when I approach women, my general opener on the apps is something along the lines of "Hey how's it going gorgeous". And I know, we've had this conversation before about how you have trouble delivering a compliment unless you fully believe it.

Well, start faking it then.

A compliment, followed by some banter and light background information (I usually ask for the Instagram so I can make sure they're real and see how they look more recently), is all that's really necessary before you start asking for phone numbers and planning dates.

Lucky for you, she seems exceptionally interested...she messaged you first, and even after your "excessive" reply, she still replied with 3 messages in a row.



I was going to provide recommendations, but now you just have to wait...

Simply ask her if she's free this weekend, grab her number, then plan a date.
Thanks I appreciate that.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Making some notes



If I'm going to ask questions, ask interesting questions. Ask emotional questions. Give answers or comments that illicit emotions.

The concept of threading.

Cold reading.

Show the right amount of desire, compliment on her uniqueness.

Cause anticipation.

Qualify, confirming, closing. Talk about what I would want to do and see what she is interested in (?)
 

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Silence = lack of dopamine, send something positive (relevant to me) that illicit a dopamine hit. No questions or plans.
sh!t test = positive, pass test, challenge her, right mindset is everything
neutral = gently flirt, brief responses
positive = move towards plans

(or some combination)
 

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The three main problems with your texts are:

1. Too long
2. Too serious
3. Too non-flirtatious

The point of these initial texts is to a) show that you are a more-or-less normal human being and not some weirdo and b) establish a little bit of rapport that would naturally lead to a date. Exchanging long-winded, serious texts is counterproductive.

A "five year plan" is something that North Korean politburo members talk about at annual meetings of the Workers' Party Congress. It's not something that you discuss with a woman you just matched with on Hinge. Similarly no woman is going to get wet upon learning that you are planning to buy a laundromat. If you told her that you were planning to buy a private jet or a mansion in Palm Beach, or to produce a major Hollywood film, it might be a different. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with owning a laundromat. I know people who own them and it can be a good business. But it's not exactly something that's going to wow a typical North American woman.
This is great advice shorter is better
 

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Interesting. I only read the first topic post.

But it sucks that personal dating communication is posted online. But you can guarantee WOMEN are way way worse about posting these dating texts

its terrible…

Anyways, my evaluation is you are too wordy. what I do Is just send the name and address of a place to meet at and a brief description, like

Red Life Wine
123 Broadway
Anytown, Anystate, 27490
A French wine bar with outdoor seating

Is 7pm okay?

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just effing go for it man stop fiddling around with texts. Don’t even bother trying to make some stupid text conversation
 

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The test they put forth is to see which guy is fastest and boldest and best with asking her out immediately

from a dating app, this stuff is instantaneous

it’s okay to ignore her questions and just go in for the date with the details of when and exactly where to meet her

be honest quick and brief

she already knows all guys suck and texting. This stuff is no mystery to her

so women who are text heavy on dating apps might do this to sort thru guys Who are inexperienced. Lots of women want to be asked out quickly. They won’t be offended by it
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I just recently got two new matches on Tinder (which I'm shocked).

One I opened with "Heyyy with a blushy smile face

The other I opened with "I bet you can't beat me in a game of air hockey"

The Hinge match didn't respond back to me after my lame response. So I wrote "I'm responsible for some crop circles"

 

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Similar to my general opener when I approach women, my general opener on the apps is something along the lines of "Hey how's it going gorgeous". And I know, we've had this conversation before about how you have trouble delivering a compliment unless you fully believe it.

Well, start faking it then.
One I opened with "Heyyy with a blushy smile face

The other I opened with "I bet you can't beat me in a game of air hockey"
Is there a reason you ask me for my opinion, only to continue doing things your own way?
 

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Is there a reason you ask me for my opinion, only to continue doing things your own way?
OP might not have the looks/pics to hook them with "how's it going gorgeous". Mileage varies.

@Plinco you might want to google "good tinder openers" and adapt one that fits your vibe and presentation. Nothing from 1990 though.
 

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Hi Plinco,
You have so much going for you,Lucid and comical,bringing a Pineapple to an Office Party,telling Birds You make Crop Circles,Cold approaching 20 Ladies in an afternoon,leads me to think that something is going terribly wrong when you try and close the deal,Maybe you're that ugly Sod who rings the Bells at Notre Dame Cathedral LOL.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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