"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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i know... i know... i'm an afc computer game nut that never imagined he would be asking for something like this but....

howabout along with health/fitness, we get a grooming/fashion forum?

like what the hell is 'flat front' pants? what's the difference between wingtip, cap toe, etc shoe?

do you have to roll up the sleeves on your button down if it is not tucked in?

etc....

i know... i know....

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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This could be interesting...
 
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i know!

but as i come to read up on this dj stuff, it seems that a great many things that i have despised in the past ends up being CRUCIAL to success with women.

i have always felt very comfortable just doing my own thing and not caring about society's mores and whatnot.

i DESPISED status symbols.

and men's fashion magazines?! are you fing kidding me?!

but it seems that a great deal of things that i don't care about are VITALLY important to get women.

i think most of all of this is bullshyt.... but it's bullshyt that women care about.

and so, to get women, i am willing to entertain the bullshyt.

if that's the price of admission, i'll pony up.

but it may be bullshyt but it's tricky stuff.... so if you're gonna jump into the slop, better know what you're doin'.... and so my request.

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I'd love to see that too, but it probably won't happen, so meanwhile try using a search for "grooming" and "fashion" for example. There have been some very good posts in the past.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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