Emotional Intelligence

[Rainman4707]

Seems like chicks nowadays are making more money and been more successful in the workplace than guys.

So the tables have turned so to speak. Men always provided. Now men cannot offer that, women are asking for something else......emotional intelligence.

I think it is laughable. Maybe it's the polarity David Deida talks about.

My opinion is it sounds like like chicks have turned into men, so to keep the polarity attraction they are asking men to turn into women. I cannot see another explanation. I will never sit at home and play the wife role. "Hi honey, how was your day? Emotions are for women.

Like pook says. Men climb mountains, they dont priortise emotional intellience.

 

[Westminster]

In my view, Pook is right - and so are you.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

Women still want "real" men at the end of the day. Fine if a woman builds financial success, but even if she is feminine in her relationship and attractive, if she outearns the man often he will feel emasculated to some degree or another.

That is very tough on a man, because it cuts into how he assigns himself value. If he doesn't out earn her he isn't the final decision maker on many major decisions, her earning power translates into a power struggle in the relationship often times.

So ideally a financially successful woman pairs with an even more financially successful man. Not because she needs his resources but because she needs to respect him and respect his accomplishments.

Trouble is that in the 1-2% of the financially successful men & women, men are less worried about how financially well off a girl is, he will pick up the slack if she is attractive enough and satisfies his other criteria. So while a 1% woman is looking for a 1% man, the 1% man casts a much wider net than just 1% women.

So as a man gains financial success his options broaden; but a woman's narrow. It is what it is. There are men who can look past a woman's earning power if he is solid enough in who he is and what he has to offer, but men have insecurities too and a wage gap in favor of the woman accentuates that kind of problem. Ask me how I know, lol.

And look, there are plenty of 1% men who just really do not have sex appeal (my highest priority, followed closely by intelligence & ambition). So I place sex appeal above financial status. It can STILL create issues.

I'm not taking the advice of a noob who knows nothing about real estate on real estate investing. Even though he earns 6 figures & is an excellent software engineer. Not when I've got 50+ transactions under my belt. You don't ask a stock broker for advice about cardiac surgery.

This should be obvious. Its ego. Very hard for guys with fragile egos secondary to a wage gap in favor of the woman to stay in his lane. I listen and acknowledge, and then do what I know to do. If I need an opinion? I get it from someone I respect who has equal or greater knowledge than me in my field.

I mean I know nothing about writing software. I also am smart enough NOT to advise a software writing expert how to create software. I stay in my lane; in my competency & stay OUT of his.

But this is hard for many men to put in practice for some reason. Fragile ego is my best guess.

But women price themselves out in a way financially, even if they are sweet. Even if they are hot. There are split power couples everywhere that illustrate this.

 

[plumber]

your right, it is a crisis. first domino in the set is men being emotionally reactive. why are men like that ? for some men, the reaction comes before they think and then the thinking includes the reaction. always ends badly. all the rest of the dominos then fall.

David Deida's book is a great read. His points are valid, what he doesn't know or doesn't tell is how to get to where he is. the path from where we are to where he is.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Like pook says. Men climb mountains, they dont priortise emotional intellience.

For the past several decades, entirely too many men(my former self included)have fallen for the myth that mimicking the lone wolf action heroes we've encountered in fiction = The way to go in real life. End result has been a serious diminishing of our SOCIAL INTELLIGENCE https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_intelligence

 

[Rainman4707]

For the past several decades, entirely too many men(my former self included)have fallen for the myth that mimicking the lone wolf action heroes we've encountered in fiction = The way to go in real life. End result has been a serious diminishing of our SOCIAL INTELLIGENCE https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_intelligence

Yes, its good to have some emotional intelligene, but those should be just the icing on the cake.

Women do emotions, men are the rock.

 

[Sega Genesis]

My opinion is it sounds like like chicks have turned into men, so to keep the polarity attraction they are asking men to turn into women. I cannot see another explanation. I will never sit at home and play the wife role. "Hi honey, how was your day? Emotions are for women.

Like pook says. Men climb mountains, they dont priortise emotional intellience.

Oh I disagree. Pook himself has TONS of emotional intelligence which is why his advice is so popular! And people take it and him seriously.

How you define emotional intelligence is misguided. It has nothing to do with being feminine or assuming the wife role or a woman earning more money.

>>Emotional Intelligence (EI) is the ability to manage both your own emotions and understand the emotions of people around you. There are five key elements to EI: self-awareness, self-regulation, motivation, empathy, and social skills.<<

It's important and necessary for both successfully picking up women and developing relationships (with anyone not just women). AND in the business world.

A man can still be masculine, climb mountains and focused on his purpose while also possessing emotional intelligence.

Your definition is incorrect.. You hear the word "emotional" and assume it means feminine, becoming the woman and taking on the wifey role.

Again it has absolutely zero to do with that. It's unclear to me where you learned it does.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

"I want a man with emotional intelligence"

=

"I want a man who will give me what I want, talk to me just the way I want to be talked to, without needing to do anything myself"

 

[Mike32ct]

“I get into situationships with F-boy narcs, but I don’t understand why men lack empathy these days.”

 

[BackInTheGame78]

In many ways, emotional intellegence is also known as maturity.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Yes, its good to have some emotional intelligene...

The validity of EQ itself is questionable https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence

 

[CornbreadFed]

Lack of emotional iintelligence is just another way of calling a man an incel.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Empathy is the toughest one to balance in professional success. The level of one’s empathy, can mean the difference between pulling the trigger or not in many situations, which may result in a negative outcome or less opportunity of one’s personal success at the expense of concern for someone else’s emotional needs or personal wellbeing. I’m not speaking on morality, strictly on the objective basis. Notwithstanding empathy, EI is a ninja level set of tools for life.

 

[Rainman4707]

Oh I disagree. Pook himself has TONS of emotional intelligence which is why his advice is so popular! And people take it and him seriously.

How you define emotional intelligence is misguided. It has nothing to do with being feminine or assuming the wife role or a woman earning more money.

>>Emotional Intelligence (EI) is the ability to manage both your own emotions and understand the emotions of people around you. There are five key elements to EI: self-awareness, self-regulation, motivation, empathy, and social skills.<<

It's important and necessary for both successfully picking up women and developing relationships (with anyone not just women). AND in the business world.

A man can still be masculine, climb mountains and focused on his purpose while also possessing emotional intelligence.

Your definition is incorrect.. You hear the word "emotional" and assume it means feminine, becoming the woman and taking on the wifey role.

Again it has absolutely zero to do with that. It's unclear to me where you learned it does.

Bullcrap. I don't buy it!
Read two posts below yours. I agree with them.

Nowhere in pooks post about 'being a man' does he mention emotional intelligence!

 

[Sega Genesis]

Nowhere in pooks post about 'being a man' does he mention emotional intelligence!

^^You're correct Pook does not, he doesn't need to. The EI he possesses is reflected by the advice he gives.

EI is not something you announce or even mention to people, it simply exists like one's IQ.

People don't announce or mention their IQ so why should they announce or discuss their EQ? Again it simply exists and part of one's overall intelligence.

The definition I gave earlier was not MY definition, it's the standard definition given by psychologists and written in psychology journals etc.

The definition I gave came from AI.

But no worries, you want to disagree and believe it's means being overly emotional, men behaving like women taking the wifey role etc that is certainly your prerogative.

 

[Divorced w 3]

This is what full scope of EQ sounds like

 

[Dr.Suave]

People don't announce or mention their IQ

A heads up would have been nice, I always announce my IQ and d1ck size when introducing myself to someone new.

 

[Sega Genesis]

A heads up would have been nice, I always announce my IQ and d1ck size when introducing myself to someone new.

Laughing "with" you not "at" you Dr. Suave. It's sometimes hard to tell with emojis!

 

[The Duke]

Emotional intelligence (EI) is the ability to understand, manage, and use emotions effectively. It involves recognizing your own emotions and those of others, regulating your behavior, and building strong relationships. Key components of EI include self-awareness, self-regulation, motivation, empathy, and social skills.

You guys don't think the term defined above is good to have? I guess if you can't recognize it, you wouldn't know perhaps? Having all of this helps you be more effictive and have better relationships.

 

[BaronOfHair]

You guys don't think the term defined above is good to have?

For centuries, we just called all that "living consciously", "being a keen observer", etc etc. Creating a pseudo-academic concept like EQ just injects confusion into an already chaotic world