"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Early 20's girls dating 30+ guys is BS

ezio6

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Simple, looksmax , lift, young maxx, I hope when im 30+, there is a light version of facelift that could make me look early 20s. A man can only hope
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Hey if societal law says 16 year olds are mature enough, then they're mature enough... Can't tell me 16 year olds are vulnerable innocent little angels, then in the span of two years, they're of sound mind to be cramming cucumbers up their pusssies on onlyfans. Can't have it both ways.
Yeah it's a sad state of affairs that girls are encouraged by simps to do these things.

What does this mean? Approach them with aloofness?
Yeah basically.

Simple, looksmax , lift, young maxx, I hope when im 30+, there is a light version of facelift that could make me look early 20s. A man can only hope
Read Dr. David Sinclair, you might be interested in him.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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My recent ONS with 13 year gap in her early 20’s is that you have to show experience and go for sexual innuendos early on in the conversation. They are inexperienced and I bet none of the guys she talks to can provide that.

it’s quite few and far in between, but don’t expect it to materialize into anything long term.
 

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I've been thinking about (and observing) the notion of that if you're a high value guy, you can easily get girls in their early 20's. I call BS. Here in Germany, I have yet to see a girl that's early 20's and that is together with a guy in his mid 30's - I have never ever seen it. They're always with guys around their age, or a little bit older - and of course good looking ones. The mid 30's guys are pushing the strollers with their gf's down the streets with their kids in them. So not sure where people are getting this information, but it's far from what I see in reality, or at least here.
You don't hang out with rich 30+ year old guys that's why. Also, no one is going to germany to get young chicks.
 

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We're not talking about rich guys, we're talking about average
Average 20 year old guys arent getting young girls. What's the point?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I was not rich, and maintained a year long relationship with a college sophomore- solid 8.6+ it can be done.
 

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Some of the couples I see the man looks old enough to be the woman's father.

For some of them it could be that the man is fat bald and has gray hair but the woman still takes care of herself so she looks 35 instead of 55.

For others it could be that it's actually a father-daughter.

But I'm sure plenty of them are actual sugar daddy situations.

I also once saw a young black guy with a middle aged Asian woman. Now that was a strange one.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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oh if you’re older you need either some bank and a boat or to look better than their peers.
 

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I’m forty-five now and girls 18-24 flirt with me all the time. I have even dated a few for a short period of time. Most of the girls tell me I’m super cute. Then there are others that are repulsed by my age Lol.
 

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Do you mean for LTR or ONS ?
LTR

ONS is possible but most guys who are into pick up assume they will get into their 30's / 40's and have access to young 20-25 year old poon at their finger tips

But It doesn't quite work like that , the young poon is carefree and lacks life experience most of it probably doesn't even have a full time job yet

Where as your average guy in his 30's or 40's is going to be working 50-60 hours a week in some corporate b.s job by the time he is chewed through all of them hours plus all his other responsibilities he's gonna be knackered

the young poon wants to go out and party 4/5 times a week and wants long fvcking sessions

You can begin to see the sharp contrast in lifestyles just from there

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I am fortunate in that i never embarked on serious corporate career , i do the bare minimum in my day job which usually takes about 10 hours a week and supplement my income with a lucrative side hustle this gives me time to juggle my young poon otherwise it would be impossible
 

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It’s definitely easier said than done and most men aren’t able to pull this off. Women are beyond flaky enough with noobs their own age, add in a 10 year age gap and it compounds. We all want a young impressionable someone; only few obtain it. I just avoid alpha widows no matter the age.
 

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It’s definitely easier said than done and most men aren’t able to pull this off
Yeah, all my friends want the 18 year old girls half their age when we go out to bars, but only one guy (the chad lol) is ever able to pull it off. The rest just get rejected.

Makes me wonder why some here seem to think that young girls are the 'easiest' for old men and think they can be 'manipulated' into sleeping with them in the same way an old man could 'manipulate' a 7 year old into doing something for him lol. I don't think they could be more wrong. Women who are older and have less sexual value are of course the 'easiest'
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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