drivin in the car with a cougar

[obijuan]

Originally posted by Best friends? NAY
umm Jon E....why shouldn't men play alot of video games?

Because John E has terrible hand-eye coordination

BTW: what's a "cougar girl"???

 

[Jon E]

Originally posted by Best friends? NAY
umm Jon E....why shouldn't men play alot of video games?

That was a jab at Kevin. Click the "WWW" at the bottom of his post. Im an automotive painter so yes, I have excellent eye hand coordination, I just think its a little silly for a grown man to still be playing video games.

 

[wolfie]

Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
The issue is not about 'hand creme', the issue is about th e mindset behind it! Of course you should use lotion if your face and hands are dry, but to use it because you want your hands to look pretty and soft - well, that is what women do. Everyday women do a ritual of lotions and face creams for the purpose of trying to look young and pretty and soft for the men!!!!

You can look and dress any way you want - as long as it's pragmatic, I don't see a problem with it - and in this case, some women LIKE soft hands on men.
Some may see it as effeminate according to their culture and the way they were culturally conditioned, but IMO true masculinity is not driven by your mannerisms.

 

[backbreaker]

I am the most marticulous person I know when it comes to the way I look... I shave every day, use facial cream, get manicures, get my eyebrows arched and a couple of other things, and i'll be damned if anyone would call me anything less than a man to my face.

When I go out and public, I don't look around for woman, I KNOW they are looking at me. I dont' have to wonder if woman find me attractive, I put so much thought into my apperence that I KNOW that a woman is looking at me and thinking that he takes care of his body, must be a clean guy overall...

 

[ThunderMaverick]

My dad is a full time plumber and he uses hand lotion. And he's a very dominant male. Some women are even scared off by his dominance.


Women are attracted to guys who take care of themselves. It shows them that the man is responsible and takes care of himself. Women are attracted to attractive guys.

It's simple physics.

If looking like you stepped out of a garbage can like oscar the grouch's roomate attracts girls, then I should have shacked myself up in a dumpster two years ago.

Women are attracted to attractive guys. And if what you're doing to attract women work, then it works.


Simple physics.

Sheesh.

 

[Skel]

I put lotion on my hands and face.

You know what they call a man who makes fun of other men because they use lotion?

An idiot

 

[00Kevin]

Originally posted by wolfie
00Kevin, you seem obsessed with the 'image' of how a man must present himself in your culture - which is all you really are describing, your culture.
Putting on hand cream does not make you any less strong or masculine, if you equate the two. Your recalcitrance and unacceptance of this issue hints at quite an insecurity. Who the hell cares if some metro guy uses hand cream? Is it in any way detrimental to him? Is it impractical in any way? Or does he just have to have rough hands to conform with your perceptions of 'the way things should be'.
I think masculinity is summed up very well in this article -
http://www.claremont.org/writings/crb/winter2003/moore.html

The concept of "Thumos" , or manly passions is a good description of what REALLY makes a strong, masculine man, not superficial manifestations like 'having rough hands', wearing a wife beater, driving a pickup truck or whatever the hell you're thinking of. Manliness is determined by the convictions and assertiveness with which you think and act, not playing at trying to LOOK like what your culture perceives a man to be. In this respect, homosexuals can be manly too as long as they act with strength and conviction.

The reason I bring this up isn't because I really care if some metro guy uses hand cream. As PL said, this issue isn't about the use of hand cream. I'm trying to point out that western culture is very influenced by feminism.

For your information, every culture has its definition of what makes a man. They all include superficial manifestations, social behavior patterns, and ideologies. Humans are very visually influenced and we even think visually. superficial manifestations are just part of our nature. These manifestations help us put our social behavior patterns and ideologies into perspective.

Superficial manifestations represent who we are. For example, warriors in some cultures paint themselves before combat to facilitate a behavior pattern and in some cases support an ideology. Many religions make use of images and rituals, and other visual manifestations to help us understand its ideologies. Even governments make use of superficial manifestations. In the same way, men make use of them so to support their concept of what makes a man. So your entire argument about the uselessness of visual manifestations is invalid.

My culture has a concept of what a man should be, it might be different than other cultures, but that doesn’t mean that it is wrong. I’m not forcing anyone to follow it; I just want to preserve it. So, when I see the men from my culture influenced by feminism I am on the defensive. I will fight to make sure that NEVER happens. I will try my best to set these guys straight. I would also expect that men from other cultures fight for what they believe is right and stand up for what they perceive as the image of what a man is. I strongly believe that the definition of what a man is in society is what makes that society strong, powerful, and influential.

So if I belong to a culture that values honor, courage, valor, strength, and has set behavior patterns for men and women then so be it. I will stand by it because I believe that it is correct.

 

[obijuan]

Originally posted by Jon E
That was a jab at Kevin. Click the "WWW" at the bottom of his post. Im an automotive painter so yes, I have excellent eye hand coordination, I just think its a little silly for a grown man to still be playing video games.

I'm just kidding man, sorry. Anyways what the hell is a "cougar girl"??????

 

[Best friends? NAY]

Jon E, so would it be silly for a Grown man to watch TV, or go play a sport? or do anytihng else he enjoys? Or is it just Silly for them to paly Video Games?

 

[outlaw01]

hah

I drive a truck and i load my own truck . by hand . i am left handed but my right glove has vasoline in it . simply because a woman wants a soft hand on her ! no vasoline on left . a woman wants some texture inside her !so my first implant will be spikes on my buddy

 

[dietzcoi]

I think a "cougar" is an older (30s-40s) never been married woman...

SOmebody please confirm

Dietzcoi

 

[Austin Allegro]

It's a north American term for a predatory older woman, generally one who hits on younger men, I think. Usually just getting past it in terms of attractiveness.

 

[squirrels]

Originally posted by Kineti[C]harm
I'm maybe not a MAN since I'm only 21 but I have handlotion, bodylotion, exfoliatingcream, facial-lotion and a special one to prevent blue-bags underneath my eyes.

Not to mention how I enjoy long bubblebaths when I'm home visiting my parents where I use several different eucalyptus and lavendel oils.

Damn I wonder if that makes me less of a man...

Eh, the eucalyptus and lavender kinda puts it over the edge.

A lot of it depends on your approach to it, though. After I'm done rock-climbing and my hands are dried out from the chalk and split from trying to grip, I'll rub on some hand lotion. F it, there's a problem to be solved and I solve it.

 

[00Kevin]

Originally posted by Jon E
That was a jab at Kevin. Click the "WWW" at the bottom of his post. Im an automotive painter so yes, I have excellent eye hand coordination, I just think its a little silly for a grown man to still be playing video games.

not much of jab anyway.. that isn't a link to any video game. you must be really dumb

 

[obijuan]

Originally posted by dietzcoi
I think a "cougar" is an older (30s-40s) never been married woman...

SOmebody please confirm

Dietzcoi

Thanx

 

[obijuan]

Originally posted by Austin Allegro
It's a north American term for a predatory older woman, generally one who hits on younger men, I think. Usually just getting past it in terms of attractiveness.

Thanx

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by backbreaker
I am the most marticulous person I know when it comes to the way I look... I shave every day, use facial cream, get manicures, get my eyebrows arched and a couple of other things, and i'll be damned if anyone would call me anything less than a man to my face.

When I go out and public, I don't look around for woman, I KNOW they are looking at me. I dont' have to wonder if woman find me attractive, I put so much thought into my apperence that I KNOW that a woman is looking at me and thinking that he takes care of his body, must be a clean guy overall...

If you told me all of that to my face, then I'd say you were less of a man... to your face. Anyone who does all of that just to look hot for chicks needs to be kicked. Do it for yourself, sure... do it for chicks, NO.

 

[00Kevin]

Originally posted by MetalFortress
If you told me all of that to my face, then I'd say you were less of a man... to your face. Anyone who does all of that just to look hot for chicks needs to be kicked. Do it for yourself, sure... do it for chicks, NO.

thank you thank you MF. I guess he will be damned now.

 

[TheInfamousCBear]

If you use hand lotion you are feminine? What the hell? So people cant take care of themselves?

No lotion = hands/arms/legs ashy as sh1t
No face cream = dirty face = bumps all over your face
I dont get them, but No pedicure = fukked up looking hands

I need to do something about these callusses (sp) on my hands..

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by TheInfamousCBear

I dont get them, but No pedicure = fukked up looking hands

cut your own nails