So Many Ways
Master Don Juan
usa/california/orange county (20 minutes east of long beach)
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Don Juans Everywhere!
- Thread starter MoAF
- Start date
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
B.J. Van Beusekom
New Member
USA/Mineapolis/ Minnesota
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Cool Cat Ben
New Member
I live in Illinois.
I live in Bloomington/Normal, IL (Twin Cities). Illinois State University (ISU) is a significant landmark here. I'm also near:
Decatur
Champaign/Urbana (where UIUC* is located)
Peoria
Springfield
*-University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign)
Note: I know it was a little wordy, but I needed to get keywords in there.
Ben
I live in Bloomington/Normal, IL (Twin Cities). Illinois State University (ISU) is a significant landmark here. I'm also near:
Decatur
Champaign/Urbana (where UIUC* is located)
Peoria
Springfield
*-University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign)
Note: I know it was a little wordy, but I needed to get keywords in there.
Ben
catch
Senior Don Juan
catch me if u can
ENGLAND, SOUTH BIRMINGHAM
ENGLAND, SOUTH BIRMINGHAM
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Scaramanga86
Don Juan
New Zealand / Auckland
skinnydart
Master Don Juan
VA
US / Virginia / Roanoke
US / Virginia / Roanoke
spidersense
Don Juan
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- Jan 1, 2005
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USA / North Carolina / Charlotte
Originally posted by Kodiac
Australia / NSW / Sydney (area)
seattledon
New Member
Location
USA / Seattle / Washington
Hit me up if you're in town
USA / Seattle / Washington
Hit me up if you're in town
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
namewitheld
New Member
United Kingdom/London
Royal Elite
Banned
USA/New York/Albany
diablo
Master Don Juan
USA / Louisiana / Baton Rouge
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.