"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Don Juan Bootcamp Recruiting, Summer 2005

thelastdj

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guys count me in.
i don't use aim though
don't think i'll get it.

but just for the record , i'm in. i'll post field reports and whatnot as well.. at least i'll try.

holidays start on friday for me so im good to go =)
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Re: Screen name added

Ok, I'm in as well. Looking forward for this. :)
With this much participants it's probably best to make teams though.

updated list:

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Ever onward

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Technicolor

just my thoughts. if people agree that the seperate posts for each week is a good idea, then i can go ahead and create it come this friday (unless some1 else wants to, or every1 decides on some1 else to do it). i think we should post the initial exercises and the lil intro that comes with each week so people can read it on the site as well
Brother AP and I also agree that seperate threads are the way to go. That will organize things a little better. I also think that Brother AP should be the one to officially post them. That way we don't have a bunch of people trying to post the thread on their own. But hey, you and him can work that out.

I'm not sure we need to make all 8 threads right away? Wouldn't it be just as effective to create a new thread each week? Why have 8 bootcamp threads floating around when we're only using one at a time?

As to the web blogs, many people believe the blogs will make it easier to follow an individuals progress without getting lost in the shuffle. Everyone will have to decide how or where they want to post.

LostinNJ

No offense by the lack of faith comment. It was a movie quote.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ever onward

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New Guys Please Note

Copy and paste the list in your reply. Add your own contact info to the list.

Remember, Bootcamp begins Friday. I recommend printing everything out so you have a copy of in field exercises and reading exercises that you need to get started on.

onward,
 

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Aahhhh Yeeeeeeeeeeeeees !!!

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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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PeterCrouch

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Is it too late to get in? if not then my msn is [email protected]

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Originally posted by Ever onward
red shift, you didn't add your name to the list...:confused:
I did..its : redshiftat7000

I couldnt get the screen name "redshift"
 

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Re: Technicolor

Originally posted by Ever onward

LostinNJ

No offense by the lack of faith comment. It was a movie quote. [/B]
None taken. I'm adding the screen names to my buddy list now, Later tonight if I see alot of people on I'll start up a chat.

P.S. I think I have some kind of virus, so if anyone gets a message from me saying something along the lines of "Is this really you?" where "this" is a link to something. Don't click it!
 

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I did..its : redshiftat7000 I couldnt get the screen name "redshift"
OH I see it now, carry on then. lol.

P.S. I think I have some kind of virus, so if anyone gets a message from me saying something along the lines of "Is this really you?" where "this" is a link to something. Don't click it!
I've tried to use aim on the university computers but I can't. It keeps saying "pop up blocker won't allow it" but I've turned the pop up blocker off on the tools drop down box.

Well have fun chatting guys. I wish I could join you. We're gonna have a blast with bootcamp.

Peter Crouch

You didn't miss it, we begin on Friday.
 

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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Hey guys,

since bootcamp involves a lot of FRs, and the regular discussion board gets swamped with A LOT of non FR stuff, AND there are a lot of guys doing the boot camp, don't you think that it would be logical to have an FR only thread?
 

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hey people in NYC.. I think the best way for me to get over my approach anxiety will be to go out with people and have them push me to approach women.. like point out a woman and say "hey, go use this line on her".. because when i try to just go out alone and approach women, i find myself chickening out a lot. that wouldn't happen if i have fellow rAFCs pushing me to approach.

so, if any of you NYC people want to go out sometime and just push eachother to approach women, that would be cool. just email me at [email protected]


I'm 22, by the way.
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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