"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Does seeming gay help with the ladies?

ChapStick

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When I tell my friends about some chick that approached me, they'll shoot back, "She probably thinks you're gay." Or something like, "That's cuz you look safe."

I'm very picky, so I don't automatically go for any cute girl that I think is into me. It's annoying that people think I'm gay!

I've had girls tell me, "You're very pretty." I work as a cashier and I get complimented on my teeth on a daily basis, and the women will say, "I'm not flirting with you, I'm married, but you have such beautiful teeth." I'll admit my wardrobe is sometimes a bit on the metrosexual side (I do have a thing for designer clothing).

Could you still be able to get women even though you look a bit on the gay side, but are completely straight? I'm kind of worried that what my friends say is true. That maybe the women see me as a girlfriend....
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Michele l'Arcangelo

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you might need to speak louder... i didn't hear you all the way inside that closet.

just get some game. i doubt your friends have females approaching them? you don't have to pretend to be gay, but you can laugh it off and joke about it (as if it didn't bother you).

i have a question though.

if you were stayed at a gay guys house and your poo-chute hurt... would you ask someone why it hurts?
 

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Are you kidding? of course you can get chicks and look a bit gay.
 

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Actually, when I bring up the fact that I get approached by women, and they can't even name a single time a girl approached them, they just bring up the whole, "Cuz you're gay." Bull****.

I have noticed that those metrosexual looking guys get a lot of girls on them. I guess it can't hurt to kinda look like one of them.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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ChapStick said:
the women will say, "I'm not flirting with you, I'm married, but you have such beautiful teeth."
Say. "All the better to bite you with."
 

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You know it's funny. I'm 33 now. When I was a teen, and early 20's. People thought I was kinda gay. Or at least not masculine. I guess being raised by my mother and having sister. And no real male influence. And I had a ton of female friends. Not many serious girl friends though.

But then I served 6 years in the Army and it made me tough. And I found, I seemed to scare women off because I had developed a cold exterior. I've been told I scare people. I've been told I look intense and mean. But I don't think I could "gay" it up even if I wanted to.
 

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jd782 said:
You know it's funny. I'm 33 now. When I was a teen, and early 20's. People thought I was kinda gay. Or at least not masculine. I guess being raised by my mother and having sister. And no real male influence. And I had a ton of female friends. Not many serious girl friends though.

But then I served 6 years in the Army and it made me tough. And I found, I seemed to scare women off because I had developed a cold exterior. I've been told I scare people. I've been told I look intense and mean. But I don't think I could "gay" it up even if I wanted to.
So you had more success when you were less masculine? Interesting.

Anyone else been noticing the same?
 

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You told your friends that a girl was interested and they say "she thinks you're gay".

Good buddies!
 
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Tell her you are BI and you want to experiment with women.. maybe it could work? But i'm not willing to go that route.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I.A.F.Y.B.

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First of all... Don't act gay! Be a man! Embrace your sexuality. Unless you want to be her girlfriend.
 
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I.A.F.Y.B. said:
First of all... Don't act gay! Be a man! Embrace your sexuality. Unless you want to be her girlfriend.

He's trying to play the gay card that's the point of this thread.

When all else fails, it could work, I have seen women wanting to hump gay guys.
 

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wanting and doing are two different things. if we have learned one thing its woman do NOT know what they want. So when they say they want a gay guy, it is truly because of his keen fashion sense. I doubt the lisp and limp wrist is bringing out their primal urges.
 

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I found that ever since I started to look more "feminine" by putting on more fashionable and stylish (and therefore gay) clothes, the number of girls who approach me went from like one/two (Sad. yeah) to ten or twenty :), or at least, they do seem to be a lot more interested.

Still working out real hard and am by far the most muscular guy in school... so I definately have that masculine reputation...and can dress more gay without anyone ever calling me that-so i guess its a good balance :up:
 

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Noob said:
exactly what i was thinking. your friends are fags... get new friends who accept you for who you are.. dont let their stupid 'gay' comments get to you man, of course femnine men can get women,,,, just accept yourself and be the best you can be... dont change for anyone but yourself. next time they make a sligh comment make sure they know you dont fvcking appretiate it man.
Thanks man! It's about time I've stood up for myself.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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oneshot said:
I found that ever since I started to look more "feminine" by putting on more fashionable and stylish (and therefore gay) clothes, the number of girls who approach me went from like one/two (Sad. yeah) to ten or twenty :), or at least, they do seem to be a lot more interested.

Wearing stylish clothes means you MAY not be the usual AFC nothing to do with gay. Look how many guys walk around looking like inspector gadget every day.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
Wearing stylish clothes means you MAY not be the usual AFC nothing to do with gay. Look how many guys walk around looking like inspector gadget every day.
I find that the way you dress attracts a certain kind of girl. Dressing preppy gets you one kind of girl while dressing ghetto will attract another.

A lot of very attractive women are around men who dress very stylishly and do seem a bit on the metrosexual side.

I'm guessing from the responses here that being either feminine or masculine can help you pick up women depending on how you present yourself. Too masculine, and you'll scare girls away. Too feminine, and girls will think of you as their girlfriend (end up using you as their emotional tampon).
 

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My old hairdresser in San Francisco had a "system". He'd pretend to be gay, tell his clients that he'd "tried it once...and it was awful". Naturally women would rise to the challenge and take him to bed for a nice time! He told me that he had slept with quite a few clients as well as several stylists.

It worked for him....might work for you.
 

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It is alleged that the PUA Tyler Durden has made out with his male friends before in order to lower a chick's shield at a nightclub.

In his defense, this is not as gay as doing magic tricks.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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