"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Does seeming gay help with the ladies?

ChapStick

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When I tell my friends about some chick that approached me, they'll shoot back, "She probably thinks you're gay." Or something like, "That's cuz you look safe."

I'm very picky, so I don't automatically go for any cute girl that I think is into me. It's annoying that people think I'm gay!

I've had girls tell me, "You're very pretty." I work as a cashier and I get complimented on my teeth on a daily basis, and the women will say, "I'm not flirting with you, I'm married, but you have such beautiful teeth." I'll admit my wardrobe is sometimes a bit on the metrosexual side (I do have a thing for designer clothing).

Could you still be able to get women even though you look a bit on the gay side, but are completely straight? I'm kind of worried that what my friends say is true. That maybe the women see me as a girlfriend....
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Michele l'Arcangelo

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you might need to speak louder... i didn't hear you all the way inside that closet.

just get some game. i doubt your friends have females approaching them? you don't have to pretend to be gay, but you can laugh it off and joke about it (as if it didn't bother you).

i have a question though.

if you were stayed at a gay guys house and your poo-chute hurt... would you ask someone why it hurts?
 

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Are you kidding? of course you can get chicks and look a bit gay.
 

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Actually, when I bring up the fact that I get approached by women, and they can't even name a single time a girl approached them, they just bring up the whole, "Cuz you're gay." Bull****.

I have noticed that those metrosexual looking guys get a lot of girls on them. I guess it can't hurt to kinda look like one of them.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ChapStick said:
the women will say, "I'm not flirting with you, I'm married, but you have such beautiful teeth."
Say. "All the better to bite you with."
 

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You know it's funny. I'm 33 now. When I was a teen, and early 20's. People thought I was kinda gay. Or at least not masculine. I guess being raised by my mother and having sister. And no real male influence. And I had a ton of female friends. Not many serious girl friends though.

But then I served 6 years in the Army and it made me tough. And I found, I seemed to scare women off because I had developed a cold exterior. I've been told I scare people. I've been told I look intense and mean. But I don't think I could "gay" it up even if I wanted to.
 

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jd782 said:
You know it's funny. I'm 33 now. When I was a teen, and early 20's. People thought I was kinda gay. Or at least not masculine. I guess being raised by my mother and having sister. And no real male influence. And I had a ton of female friends. Not many serious girl friends though.

But then I served 6 years in the Army and it made me tough. And I found, I seemed to scare women off because I had developed a cold exterior. I've been told I scare people. I've been told I look intense and mean. But I don't think I could "gay" it up even if I wanted to.
So you had more success when you were less masculine? Interesting.

Anyone else been noticing the same?
 

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You told your friends that a girl was interested and they say "she thinks you're gay".

Good buddies!
 
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Tell her you are BI and you want to experiment with women.. maybe it could work? But i'm not willing to go that route.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I.A.F.Y.B.

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First of all... Don't act gay! Be a man! Embrace your sexuality. Unless you want to be her girlfriend.
 
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I.A.F.Y.B. said:
First of all... Don't act gay! Be a man! Embrace your sexuality. Unless you want to be her girlfriend.

He's trying to play the gay card that's the point of this thread.

When all else fails, it could work, I have seen women wanting to hump gay guys.
 

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wanting and doing are two different things. if we have learned one thing its woman do NOT know what they want. So when they say they want a gay guy, it is truly because of his keen fashion sense. I doubt the lisp and limp wrist is bringing out their primal urges.
 

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I found that ever since I started to look more "feminine" by putting on more fashionable and stylish (and therefore gay) clothes, the number of girls who approach me went from like one/two (Sad. yeah) to ten or twenty :), or at least, they do seem to be a lot more interested.

Still working out real hard and am by far the most muscular guy in school... so I definately have that masculine reputation...and can dress more gay without anyone ever calling me that-so i guess its a good balance :up:
 

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Noob said:
exactly what i was thinking. your friends are fags... get new friends who accept you for who you are.. dont let their stupid 'gay' comments get to you man, of course femnine men can get women,,,, just accept yourself and be the best you can be... dont change for anyone but yourself. next time they make a sligh comment make sure they know you dont fvcking appretiate it man.
Thanks man! It's about time I've stood up for myself.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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oneshot said:
I found that ever since I started to look more "feminine" by putting on more fashionable and stylish (and therefore gay) clothes, the number of girls who approach me went from like one/two (Sad. yeah) to ten or twenty :), or at least, they do seem to be a lot more interested.

Wearing stylish clothes means you MAY not be the usual AFC nothing to do with gay. Look how many guys walk around looking like inspector gadget every day.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
Wearing stylish clothes means you MAY not be the usual AFC nothing to do with gay. Look how many guys walk around looking like inspector gadget every day.
I find that the way you dress attracts a certain kind of girl. Dressing preppy gets you one kind of girl while dressing ghetto will attract another.

A lot of very attractive women are around men who dress very stylishly and do seem a bit on the metrosexual side.

I'm guessing from the responses here that being either feminine or masculine can help you pick up women depending on how you present yourself. Too masculine, and you'll scare girls away. Too feminine, and girls will think of you as their girlfriend (end up using you as their emotional tampon).
 

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My old hairdresser in San Francisco had a "system". He'd pretend to be gay, tell his clients that he'd "tried it once...and it was awful". Naturally women would rise to the challenge and take him to bed for a nice time! He told me that he had slept with quite a few clients as well as several stylists.

It worked for him....might work for you.
 

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It is alleged that the PUA Tyler Durden has made out with his male friends before in order to lower a chick's shield at a nightclub.

In his defense, this is not as gay as doing magic tricks.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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